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Post by Commissioner on Jul 30, 2014 21:53:41 GMT -5
This is an interesting article about scheduling at a mid-major (Marshall): www.conferenceusa.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/073014aac.htmlSome excerpts: On the hassle: “'Scheduling here at Marshall is a year-round job,' Cline said in his Henderson Center office earlier this week. 'It’s not easy. Some people just think you do it in the springtime and get it done, but that’s not the case.'" Why schools like Marshall (and Detroit) play non-DI teams: "A low major “buy” game (no return date) in the Henderson Center might cost MU a $70,000 guarantee. A non-Division I foe might get one-tenth of that..." Why schools like Marshall (and Detroit) don't play schools like Dayton and Xavier: "'...people will ask, ‘Why don’t you play a Dayton or Xavier?’ Well, they’ll play, they’ll give us money for a game there, but so far, they’re not willing to come here.'" We got Mississippi State a couple years ago: "'We were very, very fortunate to get Penn State and South Carolina on a home-and-home. I don’t how many people realize how fortunate that was to get two power conference schools to return back to the Henderson Center. We haven’t had any (power conference schools) return back here since Virginia Tech (2006-07).'" How hosting those exempt tournaments works: "Cline said the Global Sports Shootout deal allows Marshall to get additional home dates for fewer dollars. The Herd pays a promoter – in the case of the Global event it is Maury Hanks of Las Vegas – to get into the event, rather than pay the three visiting schools." How those exempt tournaments work, Part II: "the Herd “would love” to go to one of the early season marquee tournaments in Hawaii, the Bahamas, Virgin Islands or Orlando, Fla., but it is not financially feasible because of the travel costs and the fact that Marshall could not recoup those dates with home games." How the rich live: "Syracuse doesn’t play a non-conference game away from the Carrier Dome unless it’s a neutral site or one of those big TV events."
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 8, 2014 7:20:02 GMT -5
This guy is ranking the non-conference schedules by difficulty as they are released. www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?54235-Ranking-Nonconference-Schedules-(using-only-top-6-projected-opponents)/page5He only uses the top 6 opponents, on the theory that that is where you test yourself, after that most everyone is playing mediocre clubs (ease of calculating scores probably played a role in his decision too :-)). Anyway, as of this posting he has 94 released schedules. Detroit is #11 (but second among mid-majors released so far). UIC is #75. Although CSU and Oakland haven't officially released schedules yet, we've learned enough about their schedules to know that barring some last minute changes, both will rank even higher than Detroit under this format.
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Post by motorcitysam on Aug 8, 2014 9:57:02 GMT -5
The Titans have a tough schedule, no question about it. It's tough, without putting the team in the role of sacrificial lamb for most of the non-conference season in exchange for the pay off.
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 11, 2014 16:37:30 GMT -5
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Post by Commissioner on Nov 29, 2014 13:35:55 GMT -5
Ken Pomeroy reports that D-I teams are 129-0 so far in games against non-DI competition.
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Post by motorcitysam on Dec 1, 2014 11:20:22 GMT -5
Ken Pomeroy reports that D-I teams are 129-0 so far in games against non-DI competition. That's interesting, because Memphis and Texas Tech both lost to D2 teams in exhibitions. Obviously, those don't count, but I wouldn't have been shocked to see a D1 team fall to a lower level program somewhere along the line.
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Post by Commissioner on Jun 21, 2016 18:30:07 GMT -5
Well, give Lon Kruger credit--Oklahoma will open its 2017-18 season with a game at University of Texas Rio Grande Valley (formerly Texas-Pan Am). Kruger coached at Pan-Am from 1982 to 1986, and UTRGV's new head coach, Lew Hill, was an assistant to Kruger at UNLV and Oklahoma from 2004 until leaving for the UTRGV job this spring.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 21, 2016 19:54:46 GMT -5
Well, give Lon Kruger credit--Oklahoma will open its 2017-18 season with a game at University of Texas Rio Grande Valley (formerly Texas-Pan Am). Kruger coached at Pan-Am from 1982 to 1986, and UTRGV's new head coach, Lew Hill, was an assistant to Kruger at UNLV and Oklahoma from 2004 until leaving for the UTRGV job this spring. Nice move by Kruger. I wonder if we can get that same consideration from Coach Beilein? Quick, low cost road trip for the Wolverines, and Coach JB will probably get some positive mention in the media for playing a mid major on the road.
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Post by Commissioner on Jun 21, 2016 21:49:50 GMT -5
Well, give Lon Kruger credit--Oklahoma will open its 2017-18 season with a game at University of Texas Rio Grande Valley (formerly Texas-Pan Am). Kruger coached at Pan-Am from 1982 to 1986, and UTRGV's new head coach, Lew Hill, was an assistant to Kruger at UNLV and Oklahoma from 2004 until leaving for the UTRGV job this spring. Nice move by Kruger. I wonder if we can get that same consideration from Coach Beilein? Quick, low cost road trip for the Wolverines, and Coach JB will probably get some positive mention in the media for playing a mid major on the road. I suspect not. These guys are so ruthless, and it is a tough profession. Pan Am is so far down the pecking order, and far enough away, that there's probably no sense of them ever nabbing a recruit from Oklahoma, whereas Detroit might nab one from Michigan, especially if the program really starts clicking. Should note I don't know the terms of the deal-- it could be 4-1 with the next for in Norman or something like that. Still, I think it's a nice and good thing for Kruger to do.
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 9, 2016 17:17:20 GMT -5
Some stats: The Power 5 conferences and the Big East play more than 86% of their out-of-conference (OOC) games at home or at a neutral site. The Power 5 and Big East collectively play over 62% of their OOC games at home. The Power 5 and Big East play just over 13% of their OOC games as legitimate road games. More than half of their legitimate road games are against other Power 5 or Big East opponents. Only 6.5% of the Power 5/Big East schedules combined are on the road versus teams from outside the Power 5/Big East. How much does playing at home help? The Power 5/Big East collectively went 9-0 at home in NIT first round games in 2016. Over the next two rounds when those schools went on the road to play at non-Power 5/Big East sites those same teams were 0-7. A "guarantee" game now pays (or costs, depending on perspective) $60-120K, with $70-90K being the usually range. americansportsnet.com/mark-adams-its-time-to-fix-college-basketball-and-heres-how/
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Post by Commissioner on May 23, 2017 10:15:15 GMT -5
Stony Brook got a game with Maryland on Long Island for this year. It will be at Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, which is not Stony Brook's usual home venue. Stony Brook played at Maryland last year, and I would guess probably will again next year.
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 18, 2017 13:48:27 GMT -5
Here's an interesting offer on Basketball Travelers. (Of course, we're booked up.)
Play Auburn University on Dec. 19-20, 2017
Auburn will offer a guarantee as either:
a) paid guarantee game OR
b) Auburn pays for 20 people to go 6 days/5 nights to Virgin Islands or Costa Rica
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 18, 2017 15:01:47 GMT -5
St. Louis is near the top of the mid-major pecking order. They play in the A10, probably the best conference, year in and year out, outside the P6. Their average home attendance last year--a down year for them, both on the court and in attendance--was 5593, their worst in years but still in the top 25% of DI programs. They've got a major airport, and are centrally located in the country. Yet even St. Louis can't get P6 teams to play them at home. www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/billikens-struggled-to-fill-men-s-basketball-schedule/article_c25a7613-ad62-5523-a924-782cf63e418c.htmlMoney quotes: Now, the picture he paints may be too bleak--they did end up getting home and homes with Oregon State and Butler (although both series open on the road this year), plus Houston. But it's an interesting read. The NCAA really needs to require at least 30% of non-conference games to be true road games, but they won't because the big schools would revolt over the lost revenue -- which is, I suppose, fair enough on their end. But the goose that lays the eggs is being slowly strangled. The Titans play at St. Louis on November 22.
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 18, 2017 15:16:19 GMT -5
Gannon University did an amazing job with scheduling this year. They've got home games with Notre Dame, Indiana, California, Pittsburg, and Seton Hill.
Of course, that's Notre Dame of Ohio, Indiana University of Pennsylvania, California University of Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh-Johnstown, and Seton Hill, not Seton Hall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 9:16:48 GMT -5
I read today that the MAAC and Atlantic Sun will be starting their own "challenge" in Orlando in 2019, just like the Power conferences do. I always hoped the Horizon would consider doing the same. I think for this season we have the Big 10/ACC; Big 12/SEC; MVC/Mountain West. How about the Horizon/A10 or AAC or Colonial. At this point the more likely scenario would be the Horizon/MAC or Ohio Valley. FYI: I would have mentioned the Summit League, but it appears that both leagues are merging to become one on their own already!
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