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Post by Commissioner on Mar 26, 2018 13:52:31 GMT -5
It appears that Bacari Alexander is being let go.
Early candidates?:
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Post by spencerhaywood on Mar 26, 2018 13:55:17 GMT -5
We need to get it right this tiem!
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 26, 2018 14:37:15 GMT -5
They've updated the list of candidates already! Isn't speculation fun? For the next few days, we can have any coach we want--John Calipari, Bill Self, Porter Moser-- even Chris Beard or Tubby Smith!
Poor Saadi Washington and Dane Fife are already out. Sorry fellows, we hardly knew ya.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 16:50:37 GMT -5
I wonder what Carlos Briggs is up to?
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 26, 2018 17:43:11 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 26, 2018 19:27:31 GMT -5
I have had a pretty ironclad rule that a coach needs at least three years before a decision is made on his future, but this is one of the very rare exceptions to that. BA pretty much hit every box on the negative side of a coaching evaluation.
Historically bad record (including most losses in the history of the program)? Check. Academic issues, including multiple players becoming ineligible? Check. Lack of any visible signs of progress? Check. Player disciplinary issues? Check. Coach disciplinary issues (including a seven game suspension)? Check.
As others have said, the BA era was a disaster by any objective measure. I hate to people lose their jobs but it is hard to argue that dismissal wasn't the right move.
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Post by rbj on Mar 26, 2018 20:55:24 GMT -5
I have had a pretty ironclad rule that a coach needs at least three years before a decision is made on his future, but this is one of the very rare exceptions to that. BA pretty much hit every box on the negative side of a coaching evaluation. Historically bad record (including most losses in the history of the program)? Check. Academic issues, including multiple players becoming ineligible? Check. Lack of any visible signs of progress? Check. Player disciplinary issues? Check. Coach disciplinary issues (including a seven game suspension)? Check. As others have said, the BA era was a disaster by any objective measure. I hate to people lose their jobs but it is hard to argue that dismissal wasn't the right move. Besides the introductory press conference, and Jaleel Hogan having a career day and leading us to victory against Oakland in January of 2017, everything else went wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 15:56:27 GMT -5
They've updated the list of candidates already! Isn't speculation fun? For the next few days, we can have any coach we want--John Calipari, Bill Self, Porter Moser-- even Chris Beard or Tubby Smith! Poor Saadi Washington and Dane Fife are already out. Sorry fellows, we hardly knew ya. Well Tubby Smith is out. He took the High Point job And per Tony Paul: No surprise here, but worth passing along: Hearing Michigan State assistant Dane Fife has zero interested in the Detroit Mercy head-coaching job. Preston Murphy from Creighton is an interesting name. Younger guy who seems to have an extensive resume and I believe he has a talented basketball playing son in the class of 2021
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 18:02:37 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 27, 2018 23:04:11 GMT -5
I think the program is in a spot that it too precarious to risk a Hail Mary hire. Give me a guy who has had success as a D1 college head coach before. If not that, give me a guy who was a successful high school head coach and has augmented that with D1 assistant experience in more than one environment. No more "first time as a head coach" guys.
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Post by rbj on Mar 28, 2018 11:31:20 GMT -5
I think the program is in a spot that it too precarious to risk a Hail Mary hire. Give me a guy who has had success as a D1 college head coach before. If not that, give me a guy who was a successful high school head coach and has augmented that with D1 assistant experience in more than one environment. No more "first time as a head coach" guys. I agree, the program needs an experienced, steady hand, not nessecarily a retread, but someone who has won at a lower level. On the other board,I mentioned the University of Montanas head coach Travis Decuire as someone I wish we would at least interview.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 28, 2018 11:39:23 GMT -5
I think the program is in a spot that it too precarious to risk a Hail Mary hire. Give me a guy who has had success as a D1 college head coach before. If not that, give me a guy who was a successful high school head coach and has augmented that with D1 assistant experience in more than one environment. No more "first time as a head coach" guys. I agree, the program needs an experienced, steady hand, not nessecarily a retread, but someone who has won at a lower level. On the other board,I mentioned the University of Montanas head coach Travis Decuire as someone I wish we would at least interview. Don't know much about DeCuire, but I agree that's the kind of candidate I like, and I've suggested similar names a while back on the nasty Titans board. Up and Coming Guys who have shown they can win at the mid-major level, but for whom the UofD job would still be a step up. I might look at someone like the guy at Wagner as a better fit. A guy who has done well at another private, small, urban school. I'd also go for another ray mccalum type, a bit older but with proven mid-major success.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 29, 2018 1:56:24 GMT -5
Ironically, the Titans need the next coach to do exactly what Ray Mac did: Take a bad team and turn them around quickly. Unfortunately for us, I think we'll find out that Ray made that look easier than it actually is. I think most of us will be ecstatic if the 2019-20 season results in a 20 win campaign, but the program is actually in worse shape than it was when Ray took over, and God knows it's in much worse shape than Ray left it. I don't think this will be an easy climb.
Just as crucial to getting the right guy for the head coach position will be the composition of that coach's staff. I like having at least one guy on the staff with former head coaching experience on some level, even if it wasn't a very successful tenure (think Ernie Z). I think one of the issues with BA's tenure was that his staff wasn't very experienced or accomplished. I don't think they brought much to the table other than bloodlines that resulted in some recruiting success.
Forgive me for a Captain Obvious type statement, but this is a most crucial hire for the Titans. We can't afford to hire another bad coach after this one. Another Sicko/Byrdsong back to back combo digs a whole that would be hard to dig out of.
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Post by titantarheel on Mar 29, 2018 13:39:06 GMT -5
First - this board is a HUGE breath of fresh air. I'm so pleased to see lots of commentary from MCSam, Commish and the like. Thank you gentlemen!
You would have to think, or hope, that Vowels has a list already in his head -- and perhaps had started to create a prospective head coaching list as the season unfolded. Especially after BA's suspension/nonsuspension in the fall.
Not sure if any of you guys subscribe to The Athletic, but they have a running list of the coaching changes as well as corresponding hires where they've been made. There's a good number of low and mid majors that have already named new coaches including places like UNC Charlotte, Eastern Kentucky, Evansville, FAU, Loyola MD, Maine, Mcneese, etc etc.
It would seem moving swiftly, and confidently, with the new HC would be nothing but a positive thing for program stability and maximizing the 2018 recruiting class. As Sam points out, this is a big hire and a big test for our AD to really nail.
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Post by udballer on Mar 29, 2018 13:46:35 GMT -5
Agree with everything you've said, Tarheel. I went back through the list on the other board last night to check out the poll from two years ago during our coaching search. Commish put together a pretty solid list of potential candidates that fit the mold that most people would agree with... primarily lower-level D1 coaches who have flourished at smaller programs. If I'd have had more time, I was going to see how that list may have progressed over the past couple of years.
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