|
Post by motorcitysam on Jun 15, 2018 22:18:10 GMT -5
Per a tweet from Jeff Goodman, JJJ has asked for and received his release from the Titan program. Curiously, and certainly incorrectly, Goodman's tweet indicates that JJ Sr. is still a Titan assistant coach.
I don't think anyone is really surprised by this move. Once it became apparent that JJ Sr. would not be retained, I imagine he was looking for a landing spot for him and his son. We'll see how things work out. I wish JJJ the best as he goes forward, unless he is playing the Titans. (Or High Point, or MSU, or one of the other teams I root for.)
As for senior, his time as part of a Detroit coaching staff was disappointing, but his time as a player is still appreciated and cherished.
|
|
|
Post by rbj on Jun 15, 2018 23:23:24 GMT -5
Per a tweet from Jeff Goodman, JJJ has asked for and received his release from the Titan program. Curiously, and certainly incorrectly, Goodman's tweet indicates that JJ Sr. is still a Titan assistant coach. I don't think anyone is really surprised by this move. Once it became apparent that JJ Sr. would not be retained, I imagine he was looking for a landing spot for him and his son. We'll see how things work out. I wish JJJ the best as he goes forward, unless he is playing the Titans. (Or High Point, or MSU, or one of the other teams I root for.) As for senior, his time as part of a Detroit coaching staff was disappointing, but his time as a player is still appreciated and cherished. As I posted on the other board it will be interesting to see where JJjr. ends up. He had some pretty decent offers out of a high school. n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/jermaine-jackson-411
|
|
|
Post by motorcitysam on Jun 18, 2018 21:19:13 GMT -5
Updated the thread title to indicate JJ Jr.'s teammate had asked for and received his release, as well. Mention was made in another thread, but I didn't want anyone to miss it, and I didn't want to start a new thread just for JB.
I would have liked to see both JB and JJ Jr. stay with the Titans. Seems like there would have been incentive to stay: Pretty much guaranteed playing time, especially for JB, and the chance to play for a respected and successful head coach. Of course, everyone has their own reasons and motivations, and perhaps these two have a landing spot(s) in mind.
|
|
|
Post by larrytitan on Jun 18, 2018 21:33:04 GMT -5
I sense JJ Sr is pulling the strings on this one.
|
|
|
Post by larrytitan on Jun 18, 2018 21:33:34 GMT -5
I sense JJ Sr is pulling the strings on this one.
|
|
|
Post by rbj on Jun 18, 2018 21:52:56 GMT -5
Updated the thread title to indicate JJ Jr.'s teammate had asked for and received his release, as well. Mention was made in another thread, but I didn't want anyone to miss it, and I didn't want to start a new thread just for JB. I would have liked to see both JB and JJ Jr. stay with the Titans. Seems like there would have been incentive to stay: Pretty much guaranteed playing time, especially for JB, and the chance to play for a respected and successful head coach. Of course, everyone has their own reasons and motivations, and perhaps these two have a landing spot(s) in mind. If its another package deal, I would guess the school would be Duquesne.
|
|
|
Post by Commissioner on Jun 18, 2018 22:42:23 GMT -5
Updated the thread title to indicate JJ Jr.'s teammate had asked for and received his release, as well. Mention was made in another thread, but I didn't want anyone to miss it, and I didn't want to start a new thread just for JB. I would have liked to see both JB and JJ Jr. stay with the Titans. Seems like there would have been incentive to stay: Pretty much guaranteed playing time, especially for JB, and the chance to play for a respected and successful head coach. Of course, everyone has their own reasons and motivations, and perhaps these two have a landing spot(s) in mind. If its another package deal, I would guess the school would be Duquesne. Duquesne already has 7 returning scholarship players and 7 (!) commits from the Class of '18, putting them one over the limit. They've already got to get rid of someone. BTW, that Duquesne roster includes three Michigan kids: incoming freshman Brandon Wade and Lamar Norman (both offered by Bacari), and soph Eric Williams, A10 All-Freshman guard from last year who was not offered by the Titans, even as he was almost void of offers until very late in the year. It also include Amari Kelly, who was offered by the Titans. Kelly was a high school teammate of erstwhile Titan commit Cory Hightower.
|
|
|
Post by larrytitan on Jun 19, 2018 7:09:57 GMT -5
JB has followed JJJ to Dakota....then to Detroit....now to this. Too bad, he could have had a nice spot with Coach Davis and the revitalized Titans. Now he will sit a year and start at a new school...4 schools in 4 yrs.
|
|
|
Post by upbasketballfan on Jun 19, 2018 8:14:35 GMT -5
This transfer request really bothers me. 4 schools in 4 yrs. is not a good pattern. I think JB has potential but needs to learn to play like a guy 6'9" 270 not 6'4" 195. I hope in our desire to get the best candidate we did not put that candidate in a position to fail. We have now lost 3 recruiting classes. I hope all of you clean the house guys have purchased your season tickets and made contributions to your University. Look forward to seeing all the # guys at the games.
|
|
|
Post by titantarheel on Jun 19, 2018 9:01:44 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see where both land. Neither tore up their freshmen years, and in my opinion have raised their stock from when they were being recruited out of high school. A program will have to redshirt them and burn a scholarship on them, when most mid majors surely can find suitable or equal options.
If you are a mid major program, at this point would you rather be pursuing hard your target recruits and some 3* high school seniors or fill those spots with JJJ or JB? I suspect most will be looking at the high school options instead.
|
|
|
Post by Commissioner on Jun 19, 2018 9:30:23 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see where both land. Neither tore up their freshmen years, and in my opinion have raised their stock from when they were being recruited out of high school. A program will have to redshirt them and burn a scholarship on them, when most mid majors surely can find suitable or equal options. If you are a mid major program, at this point would you rather be pursuing hard your target recruits and some 3* high school seniors or fill those spots with JJJ or JB? I suspect most will be looking at the high school options instead. Well, Triple J was a conference All-Freshman player. I could see a MAC school or someone taking him. But I agree, it seems likely they'll drop to some place on the level of the Citadel or Lipscomb, especially if they want to move as a pair. I also think Juco could be an option for them--options may be tight this late in the current year, but if they go Juco then they play next year and would be immediately eligible at a DI school in 2019-20.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 9:42:27 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see where both land. Neither tore up their freshmen years, and in my opinion have raised their stock from when they were being recruited out of high school. A program will have to redshirt them and burn a scholarship on them, when most mid majors surely can find suitable or equal options. If you are a mid major program, at this point would you rather be pursuing hard your target recruits and some 3* high school seniors or fill those spots with JJJ or JB? I suspect most will be looking at the high school options instead. Well, Triple J was a conference All-Freshman player. I could see a MAC school or someone taking him. But I agree, it seems likely they'll drop to some place on the level of the Citadel or Lipscomb, especially if they want to move as a pair. I also think Juco could be an option for them--options may be tight this late in the current year, but if they go Juco then they play next year and would be immediately eligible at a DI school in 2019-20. I hear Texas Southern is going to have a few open Scholarships. Plus maybe daddy can join the coaching staff and be overly generous with the playing time... Mike Davis seems very confident in himself and in what he needs to do to turn this around fairly quickly. I'll reserve judgment until I see for myself, but his track record for fixing broken programs deserves respect. It sounds like hard work, maybe beyond what any player on last years team has ever experienced, is now going to be required and nepotism or disrespect (player to coach or coach to player) will no longer be tolerated. So any player who wants to leave or doesn't want to to challenged, I hope they get off the train now and I will simply wish them good luck.
|
|
|
Post by titantarheel on Jun 19, 2018 11:22:07 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see where both land. Neither tore up their freshmen years, and in my opinion have raised their stock from when they were being recruited out of high school. A program will have to redshirt them and burn a scholarship on them, when most mid majors surely can find suitable or equal options. If you are a mid major program, at this point would you rather be pursuing hard your target recruits and some 3* high school seniors or fill those spots with JJJ or JB? I suspect most will be looking at the high school options instead. Well, Triple J was a conference All-Freshman player. I could see a MAC school or someone taking him. But I agree, it seems likely they'll drop to some place on the level of the Citadel or Lipscomb, especially if they want to move as a pair. I also think Juco could be an option for them--options may be tight this late in the current year, but if they go Juco then they play next year and would be immediately eligible at a DI school in 2019-20. That's reasonable and what I was thinking for JJJ especially, a lower MAC or similar. I actually thought he could've had a really nice 4-year Titan career, so its too bad that seems to be over. He wasn't properly used or harnessed as a freshmen -- thus my thought about him not exactly raising his stock this pas year. His shooting percentage alone is sure to scare some folks, add in the year to sit out and it's perhaps a tougher sell than the Jackson family is realizing.
|
|
|
Post by Commissioner on Jun 19, 2018 13:00:21 GMT -5
JJ seems absolutely convinced that JJJ is NBA material. Whether it was JJ or BA or both, they tried to push him right into the key role last year, when he was clearly no better than the 4th, 5th, or even 6th best player on the team (behind Corey Allen, Josh McF, Prince, Chatman, and--at least you would have expected before opening day--Hogan). I'm not generally averse to thrusting guys right into action--I had no problem with the all-freshman backcourt of McCallum and Calliste a few years back. But JJJ certainly didn't enter college as developed as McCallum, and probably not as much as Calliste, who also had a redshirt year. And I understood the all-freshman backcourt of Grant and Williams once Ray McCallum left for the NBA and Calliste for Oregon before their senior seasons--we had no other options. But JJJ should've started with 15-20 minutes a game as a back up guard, having to earn added playing time.
When Davis was hired, someone reliable--I believe Hyperion--said that JJJ was probably staying. I think he would have benefited a lot from a year playing under Davis. But I suspect he saw the writing--once Antoine Davis committed (a guy who is further along that JJJ a year ago, and should get major minutes, presumably starting as a freshman) JJJ probably saw himself being the back up this year to Josh and Davis, and that he couldn't stand. So he decided to move on.
I don't know what's up with Ballantyne. But one thing I think is that Ballantyne has to decide what position he plays. If he's a big guard--and a 6-9 guy who shoots threes can be a deadly weapon--he needs to improve his ball handling and his shot. If he's going to be a forward, power or small, he needs to start using his size in the paint at both ends of the court.
Anyway, as Scout says, they're gone, so that's that. But it does seem kind of sad. A lot of talent wasted that might have been productive in Calihan: Chatman/Khalil Chatman/Allen/Jackson/Ballantyne/Adrian Nelson--they're all good players. But that's assuming there's enough balls to go around for Kameron Chatman, Jackson, and Allen, and that they had decent coaching. Beyond cheerleading, Bacari seemed clueless about how to get the most out of his players.
|
|
|
Post by upbasketballfan on Jun 19, 2018 16:37:54 GMT -5
JJ seems absolutely convinced that JJJ is NBA material. Whether it was JJ or BA or both, they tried to push him right into the key role last year, when he was clearly no better than the 4th, 5th, or even 6th best player on the team (behind Corey Allen, Josh McF, Prince, Chatman, and--at least you would have expected before opening day--Hogan). I'm not generally averse to thrusting guys right into action--I had no problem with the all-freshman backcourt of McCallum and Calliste a few years back. But JJJ certainly didn't enter college as developed as McCallum, and probably not as much as Calliste, who also had a redshirt year. And I understood the all-freshman backcourt of Grant and Williams once Ray McCallum left for the NBA and Calliste for Oregon before their senior seasons--we had no other options. But JJJ should've started with 15-20 minutes a game as a back up guard, having to earn added playing time. When Davis was hired, someone reliable--I believe Hyperion--said that JJJ was probably staying. I think he would have benefited a lot from a year playing under Davis. But I suspect he saw the writing--once Antoine Davis committed (a guy who is further along that JJJ a year ago, and should get major minutes, presumably starting as a freshman) JJJ probably saw himself being the back up this year to Josh and Davis, and that he couldn't stand. So he decided to move on. I don't know what's up with Ballantyne. But one thing I think is that Ballantyne has to decide what position he plays. If he's a big guard--and a 6-9 guy who shoots threes can be a deadly weapon--he needs to improve his ball handling and his shot. If he's going to be a forward, power or small, he needs to start using his size in the paint at both ends of the court. Anyway, as Scout says, they're gone, so that's that. But it does seem kind of sad. A lot of talent wasted that might have been productive in Calihan: Chatman/Khalil Chatman/Allen/Jackson/Ballantyne/Adrian Nelson--they're all good players. But that's assuming there's enough balls to go around for Kameron Chatman, Jackson, and Allen, and that they had decent coaching. Beyond cheerleading, Bacari seemed clueless about how to get the most out of his players. +1
|
|