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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 20, 2023 14:51:02 GMT -5
So, the delay on Liddell was due to an internal issue, not a hold up on the NCAA side? That is correct, sam. That is very disappointing. We could have used Liddell in those early season games. The BC game comes to mind.
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 20, 2023 15:16:05 GMT -5
That is very disappointing. We could have used Liddell in those early season games. The BC game comes to mind. Certain people outside of Athletics did not think that an issue for a student athlete was sufficiently important to resolve early in the term. And the university did not have any systems in place to force his issue to be addressed earlier.
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Post by nctitan on Mar 20, 2023 16:03:17 GMT -5
It will take 10 years to get an approved concept drawing out of Facilities. In the meantime, they will display a carboard cutout picture of 3,664 glo-balls in front of the closed gift shop. This is an area where the new President, that is not so new anymore, can make a difference. One phone call from him will get those drawing moving. It will not cost a penny, just make the call. My experience with facilities is they are like an IT department. There first answer is "we can't". They can and do if a fire is lit under them. Strictly speaking, Dr. Taylor doesn't become president until this Friday.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 20, 2023 16:56:48 GMT -5
That is very disappointing. We could have used Liddell in those early season games. The BC game comes to mind. Certain people outside of Athletics did not think that an issue for a student athlete was sufficiently important to resolve early in the term. And the university did not have any systems in place to force his issue to be addressed earlier. This is pretty unbelievable. And it may explain why the Titans always seem to have eligibility problems that take forever to resolve.
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Post by titantarheel on Mar 20, 2023 17:14:13 GMT -5
Who does the AD report to? Presumably somewhere in the chain to make things happen for the benefit of the student athletes and the teams he oversees?
(I also could believe the university is crusted over in administration and not exactly using nimble 21st century thinking…)
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 20, 2023 17:22:50 GMT -5
Imagine how frustrating that situation is for the coaching staff. I am guessing that Lidell isn't the first to suffer from that failure.
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 20, 2023 17:32:54 GMT -5
Who does the AD report to? Presumably somewhere in the chain to make things happen for the benefit of the student athletes and the teams he oversees? (I also could believe the university is crusted over in administration and not exactly using nimble 21st century thinking…) The AD currently reports directly to the President. Not so much crusted over in administration as burdened with byzantine-like fiefdoms. The President did intervene to facilitate a solution. Remember that on the McNichols campus, certain things are governed by a collective bargaining agreement. Going forward, there need to be systems in place to facilitate timely resolutions of issues like the one that affected Gerald, who also made the honor roll in the fall term. Hopefully, beginning on March 25th, the new president can begin to implement constructive change that becomes a win-win for the colleges and for Athletics.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Mar 20, 2023 18:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by calihanmole on Mar 20, 2023 19:54:28 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but now that Antoine and coach said what they needed to say, I think Antoine should let this go. He can say he’s the #1 three point shooter in NCAA history. That alone is a great brand and marketable accomplishment. And being second behind Maravich in all time scoring is nothing to be ashamed of. Life is about to change fast for Antoine. Either he will play well this summer and make his way into the NBA, or he will find himself playing pro in a foreign country and still making life changing money. He needs to be focused on the next chapter of his life, not the previous one. That means putting in the work physically and making smart decisions off the court with his money and brand. Saying anything else or complaining further just doesn’t do him any good.
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Post by hyperion on Mar 20, 2023 21:10:16 GMT -5
I completely understand Antoine’s frustration but agree with Mole. I hope Antoine is equally upset about going 14-19 last year and 59-88 for his career at UofD.
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 21, 2023 2:43:38 GMT -5
I completely understand Antoine’s frustration but agree with Mole. I hope Antoine is equally upset about going 14-19 last year and 59-88 for his career at UofD. If you really knew him, you would not have made that comment. From the ESPN article which is also now on the wires through the Associated Press. “We did receive unsolicited emails and voicemails about Detroit Mercy and some said we don't ever want Pete Maravich's record broken,” said Rick Giles, president of the Gazelle Group that runs the CBI. “ The decision we made wasn't based purely on whether we wanted him to break the record or not.” (emphasis added) Therefore, the CBI's decision was based mostly on the fact that it did not want Antoine to break the record at the CBI, but they came up with at least one of other reason. And the PS8 failed because enough teams did not want to play in it if Antoine played in it. But there was no concerted effort to keep Antoine from breaking Pistol Pete's record. Yeah. Right. Just stay in your place little school. We only let a few small schools into the limelight each year. Never mind the dozens of schools with losing records that played in the CBI over its history. Never mind that you crushed our #3 seed on your home floor and lost to them only by 2 in OT on their floor. But if you had put up $135K last November to host a certain MTE, we would have let you in as our #17 seed. $27.5K was not enough for us. I understand the fact of our disappointing record. I also note that this is my school and Antoine played for my school. Therefore, I supported his efforts to play one more game despite the 8 losses in one and two-possession games. I share in his disappointment. The CBI used Antoine and us for its own advantage from March 2nd until it announced its field. They got the PR they wanted and then tossed him aside. Detroit Against Everybody.
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Post by hyperion on Mar 21, 2023 7:19:10 GMT -5
What was wrong with my statement? If we were a .500 team, we would be in, in a heartbeat. It’s hard to overlook 14-19. Close game loses are a poor argument.
As for the Detroit against Everybody, I’m ok with adopting this Moto as long as it’s modified to Detroit 14 - Everybody 19.
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Post by dtowntitan on Mar 21, 2023 8:56:12 GMT -5
In the article it is stated that the President and the Athletic Director of the University were contacted by individuals that were trying to persuade the school to not participate in the tournament.... expose them. This is what should have been done the moment anyone called the University to try to persuade them from playing in the tournament. A phone call should have immediately been made to Tony Paul and to ESPN and put them on blast. Why are they protecting POS human beings? We should care about the well being and benefits for our students, employees and staff only, forget everyone else, especially in this situation.
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 21, 2023 9:05:43 GMT -5
What was wrong with my statement? If we were a .500 team, we would be in, in a heartbeat. It’s hard to overlook 14-19. Close game loses are a poor argument. As for the Detroit against Everybody, I’m ok with adopting this Moto as long as it’s modified to Detroit 14 - Everybody 19. If you really knew Antoine, you would not have posted your hope that he is equally frustrated about the losing record. You would have known that he is very frustrated about losing. And that his personal records provide him only with some comfort. From the Gazelle guy's quote, we now know that outside pressure against Antoine playing in the CBI and breaking the record did play an important role in the CBI's decision not to invite us. Antoine is justified to feel cheated, and to express his frustration publicly. Because that was personal against him. And it comes after the CBI used him to get PR for its selection reveal. Did the CBI guy say anything about our record in that article? No. We need fans. That means people who think and act emotionally about our team and our players. We have too many people who only open their mouths to complain about us when they should be yelling at the ref's, the opponents, and cheering for us - even if they don't like everything that has happened or who is in charge. We need more fans like the students who got kicked upstairs in the PFW game. We need more fans like PantherU who stood up for his team when I attacked his coach. It's easy to be a "real fan" when our team is winning. Our all-time career leading scorer and the all-time career scorer in the modern era of college basketball just got personally dissed by the CBI and there appears to be as much shade being thrown at him from our board as from LSU or other arrogant big time programs and conferences. He said his piece and he was justified in saying it. I don't think he is going to belabor the point from here forward.
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Post by nctitan on Mar 21, 2023 9:54:43 GMT -5
What was wrong with my statement? If we were a .500 team, we would be in, in a heartbeat. It’s hard to overlook 14-19. Close game loses are a poor argument. As for the Detroit against Everybody, I’m ok with adopting this Moto as long as it’s modified to Detroit 14 - Everybody 19. If you had listened to the interviews with Coach Davis you would have heard him say that Antoine wept after each loss. If you had watched him when they retired his jersey after a lost game you would have seen how he buried his head in a towel for 10 to 15 minutes after the game. To say "I hope Antoine is equally upset about going 14-19 last year and 59-88 for his career at UofD" is ignorant and a personal insult to a young man who put it all on the floor every game for five years and passed up lucrative opportunities for this fifth year to wear the Titans uniform and bring glory to the history of the Titans basketball program.
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