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Post by titansforever on Mar 6, 2024 18:13:48 GMT -5
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Post by calihanmole on Mar 6, 2024 18:19:40 GMT -5
Can’t believe everything you read on the internet about coaching changes. Sometimes people make stuff up.
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Post by titansforever on Mar 6, 2024 18:37:34 GMT -5
Can’t believe everything you read on the internet about coaching changes. Sometimes people make stuff up. These guys have an outstanding accuracy rate. |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 7, 2024 1:29:02 GMT -5
Can’t believe everything you read on the internet about coaching changes. Sometimes people make stuff up. These guys have an outstanding accuracy rate. Until Vowels is gone nothing else matters!!! I am sure we do not want him hiring the next head coach. He might not get it done until after the start of next season. When he does it will be one of his buddies buddy or a referral from a pal. We need a young guy like Green Bay, Milwaukee or Youngstown State picked up. Now can you really see Vowels hiring one of those 3 guys, I can’t? |
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 7, 2024 4:30:42 GMT -5
These guys have an outstanding accuracy rate. Until Vowels is gone nothing else matters!!! I am sure we do not want him hiring the next head coach. He might not get it done until after the start of next season. When he does it will be one of his buddies buddy or a referral from a pal. We need a young guy like Green Bay, Milwaukee or Youngstown State picked up. Now can you really see Vowels hiring one of those 3 guys, I can’t? Who would do the hiring if Vowels were out, too? Also, Vowels did hire the young guy, Bacari Alexander, to be the coach. If we do replace Davis, I agree that we should consider a younger, but experienced, D2 head coach like Youngstown State (Calhoun) and Milwaukee (Lundy) hired. |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 7, 2024 4:54:24 GMT -5
Until Vowels is gone nothing else matters!!! I am sure we do not want him hiring the next head coach. He might not get it done until after the start of next season. When he does it will be one of his buddies buddy or a referral from a pal. We need a young guy like Green Bay, Milwaukee or Youngstown State picked up. Now can you really see Vowels hiring one of those 3 guys, I can’t? Who would do the hiring if Vowels were out, too? Also, Vowels did hire the young guy, Bacari Alexander, to be the coach. If we do replace Davis, I agree that we should consider a younger, but experienced, D2 head coach like Youngstown State (Calhoun) and Milwaukee (Lundy) hired. Bacari was no coach as I said before we hired him. He was a jokester and a back slapper. If you watched his demeanor on the sidelines when he was an assistant. He barely got into the huddles and there was no coaching on the sidelines unlike other M assist. who were talking to players and coaching them up. As evidenced by his speedy exit from the coaching ranks at a pretty young age. He was talking the talk but not walking the walk! We should not allow Vowels to stay especially not to make this hire. Every hire he has made has weakened every sport. He is not equipped to be AD. Nothing he has touched is better now then before he muddied it! First we need a new AD and then he can bring in his guy!!! |
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 7, 2024 5:12:52 GMT -5
Yes, Bacari was not able to handle the pressure of being the head coach. But he was the young guy. So, it just isn't the coach's age - it's other qualities. As I said, if we are going to proceed first by changing the coach, then we should look at young D2 head coaches like Calhoun and Lundy who have turned around programs and/or have produced consistently winning teams.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 7, 2024 5:39:20 GMT -5
Yes, Bacari was not able to handle the pressure of being the head coach. But he was the young guy. So, it just isn't the coach's age - it's other qualities. As I said, if we are going to proceed first by changing the coach, then we should look at young D2 head coaches like Calhoun and Lundy who have turned around programs and/or have produced consistently winning teams. Actually I like Wicks and Calhoun a little better than Lundy and I think they are closer in age around 43 where Lundy is 52 and really obnoxious! They were both D1 assistants and took over really depleated programs. I think Slocum had Youngstown pretty well buried and Calhoun has done a nice job. He was a West Virginia assist. And that is not that far from Youngstown and Wicks although he came from Wyoming he did have a stint at Northern Ill.. Something to look at is Northern Michigan U has a young coach in his first season who is in first place in the GLIAC ahead of Ferris and Wayne State who by the way is in 8th place. |
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Post by hyperion on Mar 7, 2024 8:00:47 GMT -5
One would think that Vowels would work with Davis to garner the Coach’s alacritous resignation, however, there is an empty dark feeling that changes will not take place unless the President is involved.
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Post by udmperry on Mar 7, 2024 8:08:49 GMT -5
I had to quickly look up “alacritous!” I speedily discovered its meaning. I promptly tip my hat to you for broadening my vocabulary! Well done.
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 7, 2024 8:54:45 GMT -5
The biggest problem with Davis is being able to retaining quality players that would pay off in the long run. If Davis could of held onto Noah, Isaiah Jones, Joey, Mohamed, TJ Moss, Sam Hofman to this year we would of had a team that could compete at least in the HL.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 7, 2024 10:16:55 GMT -5
The biggest problem with Davis is being able to retaining quality players that would pay off in the long run. If Davis could of held onto Noah, Isaiah Jones, Joey, Mohamed, TJ Moss, Sam Hofman to this year we would of had a team that could compete at least in the HL. I don't know that anyone could have kept Noah, given what I've seen of the young man. I wish we had kept Isaiah but he did not do much for OU this year; who knows if Joey would have developed, but it was injuries that waylaid him; TJ Moss did very little for CSU this year--his total playing time for the year was 60 minutes; Hofman started on one of the weaker Temple teams. He definitely would have helped us, but hardly have been a game changer. He averaged 5.9 rebounds, and we needed rebounding, but he shot just 32% and averaged 5.9 points. And Temple is his 4th-count 'em, 4th--school. Mohamed? Did you mean Madut Akec? He would have helped a whole lot, and been a nice complement to Stone. But Madut didn't leave us for another university, he's been playing professionally for two years now. I don't think you can really blame coach for not holding onto Akec. So yeah, those guys would have helped, but the two guys who really could have helped--Waterson and Akec--were probably not going to be kept in the D by any coach. Add Hofman and Jones, maybe we win 4 or 5 games, or even 7 or 8. I think the bigger problem was just not getting enough good players in and getting/keeping them eligible to play. |
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 7, 2024 10:36:25 GMT -5
If this is true, I have mixed feelings, depending on whether he resigned or was sacked. If the latter, well—it’s hard to justify keeping a coach who has lost so much over 6 years, and just set an NCAA record for losses in a season.
But I think Davis can win—he has had a lot of bad breaks in Detroit, and he has won everywhere else. If we have to pay him a half million dollars to fire him, that’s two seasons worth of “buy” games. Maybe the money would be better spent living with another year of Davis and the money invested in facilities or playing more home games. And that would allow us to get a new AD in place to make the hire, because I don’t trust Vowels to make the choice.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 7, 2024 10:55:05 GMT -5
If this is true, I have mixed feelings, depending on whether he resigned or was sacked. If the latter, well—it’s hard to justify keeping a coach who has lost so much over 6 years, and just set an NCAA record for losses in a season. But I think Davis can win—he has had a lot of bad breaks in Detroit, and he has won everywhere else. If we have to pay him a half million dollars to fire him, that’s two seasons worth of “buy” games. Maybe the money would be better spent living with another year of Davis and the money invested in facilities or playing more home games. And that would allow us to get a new AD in place to make the hire, because I don’t trust Vowels to make the choice. That's pretty much how I see it. |
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Post by akhorey on Mar 7, 2024 10:57:23 GMT -5
If this is true, I have mixed feelings, depending on whether he resigned or was sacked. If the latter, well—it’s hard to justify keeping a coach who has lost so much over 6 years, and just set an NCAA record for losses in a season. But I think Davis can win—he has had a lot of bad breaks in Detroit, and he has won everywhere else. If we have to pay him a half million dollars to fire him, that’s two seasons worth of “buy” games. Maybe the money would be better spent living with another year of Davis and the money invested in facilities or playing more home games. And that would allow us to get a new AD in place to make the hire, because I don’t trust Vowels to make the choice. That's pretty much how I see it. Out officially as of a few minutes ago. |
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