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Post by Titan Jim on Mar 15, 2024 13:42:02 GMT -5
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Post by Rogobob77 on Mar 15, 2024 18:49:56 GMT -5
So all the U-M assistants will now be "open to other career opportunities" in college basketball.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 15, 2024 21:27:43 GMT -5
What would anyone think if Juwan were interested in the Titan job (which I doubt he is, but he does have some connections)?
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Post by titansforever on Mar 15, 2024 21:48:21 GMT -5
What would anyone think if Juwan were interested in the Titan job (which I doubt he is, but he does have some connections)? I'd take Phil Martelli over Howard, with Martelli's kid as lead assistant, in a heartbeat. |
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 15, 2024 22:06:50 GMT -5
What would anyone think if Juwan were interested in the Titan job (which I doubt he is, but he does have some connections)? In a universe where JH had enough confidence to believe that his path to redemption was through reviving a 1-31 team, of course I would be interested. He would create more splash and buzz than any candidate we would be likely to get. We would immediately go from a losing program with the hospital name and poor facilities to "JH's new team". It would be a hook for recruiting and fundraising. We might get some of his rich friends to support The Shield collective. His first game would be newsworthy. Jalen would probably attend some games. High school recruits won't remember the Fab Five, but their parents and coaches would. It will never happen, but I would support it. |
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Post by titansforever on Mar 16, 2024 12:48:18 GMT -5
What would anyone think if Juwan were interested in the Titan job (which I doubt he is, but he does have some connections)? In a universe where JH had enough confidence to believe that his path to redemption was through reviving a 1-31 team, of course I would be interested. He would create more splash and buzz than any candidate we would be likely to get. We would immediately go from a losing program with the hospital name and poor facilities to "JH's new team". It would be a hook for recruiting and fundraising. We might get some of his rich friends to support The Shield collective. His first game would be newsworthy. Jalen would probably attend some games. High school recruits won't remember the Fab Five, but their parents and coaches would. It will never happen, but I would support it. We would win the press conference. Then, be looking for a new coach after 4-5 years. Ask yourself, how does ANYONE go 8-24 at Michigan, with all its advantages? Do you think Mike Davis would have done better there this year? I do. You go 8-24 at Michigan by being a bad coach who also seems to have the ability to alienate a lot of people close to the program and in the Big Ten. |
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Post by rbj on Mar 16, 2024 15:29:17 GMT -5
What would anyone think if Juwan were interested in the Titan job (which I doubt he is, but he does have some connections)? In a universe where JH had enough confidence to believe that his path to redemption was through reviving a 1-31 team, of course I would be interested. He would create more splash and buzz than any candidate we would be likely to get. We would immediately go from a losing program with the hospital name and poor facilities to "JH's new team". It would be a hook for recruiting and fundraising. We might get some of his rich friends to support The Shield collective. His first game would be newsworthy. Jalen would probably attend some games. High school recruits won't remember the Fab Five, but their parents and coaches would. It will never happen, but I would support it. Juwan Howard would probably do well at UDM, he'd do a hell of lot better than 1-32. In hindsight, he probably should've took the year off to recover from heart surgery. Howard had career earnings of over $149,000,000 and recieved a $3,000,000 buy out from UofM. |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 16, 2024 16:13:13 GMT -5
In a universe where JH had enough confidence to believe that his path to redemption was through reviving a 1-31 team, of course I would be interested. He would create more splash and buzz than any candidate we would be likely to get. We would immediately go from a losing program with the hospital name and poor facilities to "JH's new team". It would be a hook for recruiting and fundraising. We might get some of his rich friends to support The Shield collective. His first game would be newsworthy. Jalen would probably attend some games. High school recruits won't remember the Fab Five, but their parents and coaches would. It will never happen, but I would support it. Juwan Howard would probably do well at UDM, he'd do a hell of lot better than 1-32. In hindsight, he probably should've took the year off to recover from heart surgery. Howard had career earnings of over $149,000,000 and recieved a $3,000,000 buy out from UofM. And he might not! I think most of us if we are honest thought that MD would do a lot better than he did. It took me about 2-3 years to start to see that he wasn’t all in and never considered himself a Detroiter! |
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Post by nctitan on Mar 17, 2024 10:38:50 GMT -5
This is from an article in The Athletic on the fall of Juwan Howard. Not a comment or criticism, but an observation. Seems a parallel somewhat to Mike Davis’ final year.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 17, 2024 11:58:37 GMT -5
In a universe where JH had enough confidence to believe that his path to redemption was through reviving a 1-31 team, of course I would be interested. He would create more splash and buzz than any candidate we would be likely to get. We would immediately go from a losing program with the hospital name and poor facilities to "JH's new team". It would be a hook for recruiting and fundraising. We might get some of his rich friends to support The Shield collective. His first game would be newsworthy. Jalen would probably attend some games. High school recruits won't remember the Fab Five, but their parents and coaches would. It will never happen, but I would support it. Juwan Howard would probably do well at UDM, he'd do a hell of lot better than 1-32. In hindsight, he probably should've took the year off to recover from heart surgery. Howard had career earnings of over $149,000,000 and recieved a $3,000,000 buy out from UofM. He definitely doesn't need the money, and if he wanted to do the job, he'd probably give us a price break.  And, yeah, he probably should have taken the year off to recover from surgery. Some people are focusing on this last year, as if that is representative of the kind of coach Howard is, but they are disregarding his first few years at U-M. Those seasons count, too. Michigan has a lot of advantages, but one thing they haven't had recently is significant NIL resources and a cooperative admissions department when it comes to transfers. I told someone recently that this season would have been different for the Wolverines if Hunter Dickinson hadn't left for more NIL money and Caleb Love had been admitted by the University. Dickinson was first team all Big 12 at Kansas and Love was player of the year in the PAC 12. I would bet that Michigan would be a much better club with those two. In an enviornment where high major recruits are looking for big money, you have to have community/booster report for NIL. Hunter Dickinson complained that in his last season at Michigan he was paid less than $100 grand. According to reports, Emoni Bates got more than that from EMU. The Miami Hurricanes are paying guys $400K. Caleb Love had no problem getting admitted into Arizona. Doesn't sound like Howard got the support that a lot of coaches at that level are getting. We'll see if the next coach in Ann Arbor receives a different level of support. |
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Post by Rogobob77 on Mar 17, 2024 12:01:20 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 17, 2024 13:21:43 GMT -5
Sounds like the tactics UConn and St. John's tried to get out of paying coaches that they had fired. |
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Post by lurker on Mar 17, 2024 13:33:06 GMT -5
Sounds like the tactics UConn and St. John's tried to get out of paying coaches that they had fired. Or maybe hes a terrible person and coach! |
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Post by titantarheel on Mar 17, 2024 14:53:34 GMT -5
I used to be a big Juwan fan as member of fab five, respected his nba longevity etc. thought he’d be a good fit at um and then…a half dozen data points to suggest he doesn’t have the temperament to handle it - attacking other coaches, threatening other coaches, threatening his own son w physical violence, and on and on.
Maybe he should step away from hoops for a bit and chill out with his stack of money. His failure at um is entirely on him.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 17, 2024 18:20:31 GMT -5
It's interesting to me that it is rarely mentioned that Howard slapped another coach after that coach went after a Michigan player, in the middle of a melee started by Greg Garde grabbing Howard as he tried to walk past Garde. Howard was rightly punished for that, but I don't think the Wisconsin guys should be held blameless.
If we're saying that Howard should have been fired due to wins and losses, my opinion is that his first losing season shouldn't have been a fireable offense given his previous accomplishments. If we are saying he should have been fired for anger issues, I would just point out that I've seen Izzo have to be physically restrained when going after one of his own players during a game, and the Hurley brothers regularly act like psychopaths on the sidelines.
I'm not saying Howard is blameless or a great coach. I'm just saying that I've seen plenty of coaches with worse records and warts stay on the job.
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