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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 27, 2024 10:04:08 GMT -5
If this is the final four list (and I am not convinced what TP says is accurate) it's hard to say if the University was specifically focused on the "high major assistant" type or if it just so happened that the best four candidates who were interested in the job and considered were these four. I don't think it means that they only looked at this type of candidate.
Of course, they'll probably never divulge any details of how the decision was made. We'll be left to wonder and come up with narratives like, "Did Bronkema turn us down? Did we turn him down? Was there a boycott of local coaches threatened if Bronkema became the coach?"
And so on...
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Post by lurker on Mar 27, 2024 10:38:43 GMT -5
If this is the final four list (and I am not convinced what TP says is accurate) it's hard to say if the University was specifically focused on the "high major assistant" type or if it just so happened that the best four candidates who were interested in the job and considered were these four. I don't think it means that they only looked at this type of candidate. Of course, they'll probably never divulge any details of how the decision was made. We'll be left to wonder and come up with narrativ, "Did Bronkema turn us down? Did we turn him down? Was there a boycott of local coaches threatened if Bronkema became the coach?" And so on... Why always so much drama with you bro, you gotta get out of arizona people know stuff and they share it with reliable people like mike Bob rick etc these guys share with good friends and its legit info theyre not blabering it on forums |
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Post by rbj on Mar 27, 2024 11:04:57 GMT -5
If this is the final four list (and I am not convinced what TP says is accurate) it's hard to say if the University was specifically focused on the "high major assistant" type or if it just so happened that the best four candidates who were interested in the job and considered were these four. I don't think it means that they only looked at this type of candidate. Of course, they'll probably never divulge any details of how the decision was made. We'll be left to wonder and come up with narratives like, "Did Bronkema turn us down? Did we turn him down? Was there a boycott of local coaches threatened if Bronkema became the coach?" And so on... Bronkema lost last night in the D2 elite 8. Maybe Vowels was waiting on his season to end to interview him? |
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Post by royaloakdave on Mar 27, 2024 20:18:45 GMT -5
I'm hoping Andy Bronkema will be considered, he just completed his 11th year as head coach at Ferris State with an overall record of 252-93 (73%). Interesting to note, Ferris State had a per game home attendance of 1,114; not bad for a D2 school located in a small city. đ |
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 28, 2024 3:51:27 GMT -5
I'm hoping Andy Bronkema will be considered, he just completed his 11th year as head coach at Ferris State with an overall record of 252-93 (73%). Interesting to note, Ferris State had a per game home attendance of 1,114; not bad for a D2 school located in a small city. đ Ferris State has over 3x the number of undergrad students as U of D. And about 10x the number of students living on or within walking distance of campus as U of D. |
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 28, 2024 5:11:12 GMT -5
If this is the final four list (and I am not convinced what TP says is accurate) it's hard to say if the University was specifically focused on the "high major assistant" type or if it just so happened that the best four candidates who were interested in the job and considered were these four. I don't think it means that they only looked at this type of candidate. Of course, they'll probably never divulge any details of how the decision was made. We'll be left to wonder and come up with narratives like, "Did Bronkema turn us down? Did we turn him down? Was there a boycott of local coaches threatened if Bronkema became the coach?" And so on... Look at CSA's placements for head basketball coaches that they tout. They're either past D1 head coaches or a power D1 assistant with experience. Shaka Smart, Jon Schreyer, Jake Diebler, Austin Claunch, Cornell Mann, Mike Jones, Danyial Robinson. They are not an out of the box search firm. They will give you the safe recommendation. They'll give the AD permission to promote the loyal assistant as with Ohio State and Charlotte. Otherwise, they don't want to be returnign search fees in Years 2 and 3 because the coach did not stay. It's like if you're a business and pay a consultant to come in an advise you on how to improve things. One recommendation will always be "Raise your prices." That's just the way of the consulting and search firm world. It would make interesting conversation to learn what really happened 6 years ago re: Bronkema - if anything. Now, it's 2024. From 2018, we do know that Vowels can keep things under wraps until the last minute. If he turns out to be the guy, then Vowels has kept that card hidden very well. |
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Post by Titan Jim on Mar 28, 2024 8:14:12 GMT -5
Just saw an interesting article on spartanavenue.com stating that Izzo may soon be looking for a new Assistant, because Mark Montgomery is rumored to be a top candidate for the UDM job. This should be taken with a grain of salt though, because the rumor comes from Tony Paul. The article does imply that Montgomery leaving might be OK for MSU though, because it would give Izzo a chance to bring in some fresh blood. Makes you wonder if Izzo let Montgomery return to MSU while looking for a new head coaching job, as a favor. It may explain why Izzo is not discouraging Montgomery from taking the UDM job. Here a the link to the article.., spartanavenue.com/posts/tom-izzo-may-soon-be-looking-for-a-new-assistant-coach-01hsy11beknm |
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Post by titanmike on Mar 28, 2024 12:06:13 GMT -5
If this is the final four list (and I am not convinced what TP says is accurate) it's hard to say if the University was specifically focused on the "high major assistant" type or if it just so happened that the best four candidates who were interested in the job and considered were these four. I don't think it means that they only looked at this type of candidate. Of course, they'll probably never divulge any details of how the decision was made. We'll be left to wonder and come up with narratives like, "Did Bronkema turn us down? Did we turn him down? Was there a boycott of local coaches threatened if Bronkema became the coach?" And so on... Look at CSA's placements for head basketball coaches that they tout. They're either past D1 head coaches or a power D1 assistant with experience. Shaka Smart, Jon Schreyer, Jake Diebler, Austin Claunch, Cornell Mann, Mike Jones, Danyial Robinson. They are not an out of the box search firm. They will give you the safe recommendation. They'll give the AD permission to promote the loyal assistant as with Ohio State and Charlotte. Otherwise, they don't want to be returnign search fees in Years 2 and 3 because the coach did not stay. It's like if you're a business and pay a consultant to come in an advise you on how to improve things. One recommendation will always be "Raise your prices." That's just the way of the consulting and search firm world. It would make interesting conversation to learn what really happened 6 years ago re: Bronkema - if anything. Now, it's 2024. From 2018, we do know that Vowels can keep things under wraps until the last minute. If he turns out to be the guy, then Vowels has kept that card hidden very well. Vowels will keep it under wraps as he should, but I dont think for a minute he is majorly involved in the coach choice. |
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 28, 2024 12:50:21 GMT -5
Look at CSA's placements for head basketball coaches that they tout. They're either past D1 head coaches or a power D1 assistant with experience. Shaka Smart, Jon Schreyer, Jake Diebler, Austin Claunch, Cornell Mann, Mike Jones, Danyial Robinson. They are not an out of the box search firm. They will give you the safe recommendation. They'll give the AD permission to promote the loyal assistant as with Ohio State and Charlotte. Otherwise, they don't want to be returnign search fees in Years 2 and 3 because the coach did not stay. It's like if you're a business and pay a consultant to come in an advise you on how to improve things. One recommendation will always be "Raise your prices." That's just the way of the consulting and search firm world. It would make interesting conversation to learn what really happened 6 years ago re: Bronkema - if anything. Now, it's 2024. From 2018, we do know that Vowels can keep things under wraps until the last minute. If he turns out to be the guy, then Vowels has kept that card hidden very well. Vowels will keep it under wraps as he should, but I dont think for a minute he is majorly involved in the coach choice. Of course. The president and Trustees have the final say. And they can solicit input from others. But Vowels will present them with a recommendation that results from the search process. |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 28, 2024 21:24:00 GMT -5
Vowels will keep it under wraps as he should, but I dont think for a minute he is majorly involved in the coach choice. Of course. The president and Trustees have the final say. And they can solicit input from others. But Vowels will present them with a recommendation that results from the search process. WHY IS VOWELS STILL THERE?  ?? |
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 29, 2024 3:12:16 GMT -5
More TP from TP.
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Post by rbj on Mar 29, 2024 8:15:21 GMT -5
Interesting, there was a rumor floating that Izzo advised Dwayne Stephens not to take the UDM job. Why is he advocating for Montgomery to get the job now? Strange. |
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Post by nctitan on Mar 29, 2024 8:40:23 GMT -5
Not sure why Izzo's endorsement would mean anything to our selection process. The guy has been anti-Titan since Perry's teams beat him badly 20+ years ago.
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Post by rc on Mar 29, 2024 9:05:36 GMT -5
Not sure why Izzo's endorsement would mean anything to our selection process. The guy has been anti-Titan since Perry's teams beat him badly 20+ years ago. So true, he wouldnât give us the time of day. |
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Post by udmperry on Mar 29, 2024 9:12:20 GMT -5
NC: Spot on. Agree totally. And so what if our Board Prez is an MSU grad? Talk about a reach in reasoning. Is Izzo trying to unload deadwood on us so he doesnât have to pay to fire and buy that guy out? The take in prior sentence makes more sense than âUDM prez is MSU grad.â Sheez. Should scour the resumes of all the Board members for critical insights like that? Iâm sure six degrees of separation/Kevin Bacon will reveal the eventual coaching choice.
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