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Post by motorcitysam on Jul 23, 2021 22:12:05 GMT -5
Hearing and reading about rumors of the SEC expanding by adding Texas and Oklahoma. Would probably boost the SEC in both basketball and football, but would be a huge blow to the Big 12. I imagine the other institutions in the Big 12 are sick of Texas and their periodic flirtations with other conferences. www.si.com/college/2021/07/21/texas-oklahoma-sec-rumors-expansion-ncaaPerhaps. But the most successful Big 12 basketball teams are the ones staying: I think Kansas, Baylor and Texas Tech have been to a Final Four more recently than either Oklahoma or Texas. Texas is the big money school in that conference. And if Texas and Oklahoma leave, the league is down to eight teams and I doubt they would find similar replacements.
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Post by Commissioner on Jul 23, 2021 22:43:35 GMT -5
I think they’d try to add Houston and Cincinnati, and maybe take Wichita St as a non-football school. New Mexico might be a possibility, or other AAC teams.
It would hurt they Big 12 much more in football than in basketball, but football is where the big money is.
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Post by happy on Jul 24, 2021 9:53:34 GMT -5
If the SEC invites Oklahoma and Texas,then we can expect college athletics to change for mid major programs as we know it, due to the 4×16 realignment beginning to take shape. I actually can see the AAC & Big 12 merging which involves Baylor, Kansas St,TCU plus one or two other schools.
Iowa St and Kansas (Big 10) Kansas offers basketball and Iowa St offers football, plus both are AAU schools. Oklahoma St and Texas Tech (PAC 12) West Virginia (AAC)
SMU vs. Baylor Houston vs. TCU The old SWC is going to be reestablished, not sure how Kansas St. feels about being in the same league, as Wichita? However, it could be a good annual game.
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Post by titansforever on Jul 24, 2021 17:00:02 GMT -5
I think they’d try to add Houston and Cincinnati, and maybe take Wichita St as a non-football school. New Mexico might be a possibility, or other AAC teams. It would hurt they Big 12 much more in football than in basketball, but football is where the big money is. BYU is the top team without a football conference. A much better fit for football, and for all sports than in the West Coast Conference for its other sports. BYU and Houston would be their best choices if they want to keep the Big 12 relatively intact.
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Post by happy on Jul 24, 2021 19:03:28 GMT -5
I think they’d try to add Houston and Cincinnati, and maybe take Wichita St as a non-football school. New Mexico might be a possibility, or other AAC teams. It would hurt they Big 12 much more in football than in basketball, but football is where the big money is. BYU is the top team without a football conference. A much better fit for football, and for all sports than in the West Coast Conference for its other sports. BYU and Houston would be their best choices if they want to keep the Big 12 relatively intact. The AAC has 11 football members as is. Depending on Boise’s future, that leaves four or five openings. The Big 12′s three remaining Texas schools could join old SWC pals SMU and Houston. How about this for a West Division: Baylor, TCU, Tech, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane and Memphis?
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Post by happy on Jul 25, 2021 9:41:05 GMT -5
Iowa St and Kansas (Big 10) I don't see anyway that happens. Both of them would want in the Big 10 but I highly doubt the Big is really interested. The Big 10 only going to add universities that are AAU and add media markets. Research money is in the billions. College athletics is in the millions so AAU status is a presidential requirement. Adding media markets is the other big requirement for the Big 10. It's the only reason they added dogs like Rutgers and Maryland. The BTN only brings in more revenue if it adds new and large media markets. Kansas is AAU but I don't think they really do anything for the Big 10 when it comes to adding a large media markets. Iowa State isn't AAU and doesn't offer a new media market since they overlap with Iowa. Perhaps there is a chance that the AAU might have some changes in the next few years as well most likely with a current BXII member Kansas leaving If the Big 10 doesn't invite them, than I doubt the PAC12 would invite TT and OSU for the same reasons. Although, the PAC 12 needs eyeballs for PAC12 network in the Central time zone and the state of Texas love their football. The BXII maybe able to survive if these 4 schools can't find a P4 home.
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Post by Commissioner on Jul 25, 2021 18:51:28 GMT -5
Iowa St and Kansas (Big 10) I don't see anyway that happens. Both of them would want in the Big 10 but I highly doubt the Big is really interested. The Big 10 only going to add universities that are AAU and add media markets. Research money is in the billions. College athletics is in the millions so AAU status is a presidential requirement. Adding media markets is the other big requirement for the Big 10. It's the only reason they added dogs like Rutgers and Maryland. The BTN only brings in more revenue if it adds new and large media markets. Kansas is AAU but I don't think they really do anything for the Big 10 when it comes to adding a large media markets. Iowa State isn't AAU and doesn't offer a new media market since they overlap with Iowa. Kansas brings in the Kansas City market, plus Topeka and Wichita. I could see the B10 taking Kansas.
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Post by Commissioner on Jul 25, 2021 22:38:19 GMT -5
Kansas brings in the Kansas City market, plus Topeka and Wichita. I could see the B10 taking Kansas. Kansas does not bring in the Kansas City MO market. Topeka and Wichita are small media markets that won't increase the Big 10's revenue from the BTN. Topeka represents 142K and Wichita represents 379K TV homes. By comparison, the city of Detroit alone represents 1.7 million TV homes. mediatracks.com/resources/nielsen-dma-rankings-2020/Of course it brings in KC. It’s closer to KC than the university of Missouri, its alums are heavily represented in the KC metro area, its games are already carried in the KC metro area on both radio and television. Even their exhibition games are broadcast on TV and radio in KC. About 40% of the Msa population lives in Kansas. Wichita and Topeka are indeed small markets that wouldn’t merit consideration on their own but they augment KC. The problem is that KU isn’t very good in football, and hasn’t been in a long time, so it’s a poor draw both live and on TV. But it’s got hoops and it’s AAU. I could see it happening.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jul 27, 2021 13:28:38 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Sept 2, 2021 12:43:47 GMT -5
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Post by titantarheel on Sept 2, 2021 14:11:05 GMT -5
Feels like a good decision and a win-win for everyone involved. If you are any of the 4 schools, you feel good that you are getting 'promoted' up to the big time and won't be left behind for whatever lies ahead in the college sports landscape.
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Post by Commissioner on Sept 3, 2021 21:16:13 GMT -5
The dominoes start to fall. This will leave the AAC with 8 football schools (2 of which, UConn and Navy--don't play basketball in the league) and 7 basketball schools (one of which, Wichita State, doesn't play football). They're not going to get UConn to return there for hoops. They might try to get Navy to move all its sports to the conference, but would probably want to add at least 2 football and 2 basketball schools. I'm not sure the AAC, sans Houston and Cincy, is a better hoops conference than the A10, but it might be--they might try to add non-football schools, such as VCU, Dayton, and St. Louis. UMAss is the one A10 school that also plays D-1 football, where they've been an independent for several seasons. But UMass is awful at football--19-81 since joining D1 nine years ago--and they haven't been very good in hoops, either--they'd had 5 straight losing seasons before going 8-7 last year, and making just 1 NCAA tournament in 23 years. They could also raid CUSA for someone like UAB or UT-San Antonio. Anyway, I presume they'll do something, with will create more opportunities in the conferences they raid. This could get very interesting.
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Post by freewynd on Sept 17, 2021 19:14:08 GMT -5
Feels like the ovc might fall apart.
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