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Post by ptctitan on May 23, 2019 19:20:41 GMT -5
According to verbal commits, KJ Santos is returning to UIC as a grad transfer. What a long strange trip it's been.
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Post by Commissioner on May 24, 2019 6:36:59 GMT -5
According to verbal commits, KJ Santos is returning to UIC as a grad transfer. What a long strange trip it's been. I don't think Santos is a grad transfer. He's three years out of high school. VC does not list him as immediately eligible. He could have graduated in 3 years, but most kids don't. Anyway, he's only used two years of eligibility, so if he's a grad transfer he'd have two years to play with UIC (if he can get himself to stick around). If he's not, he'll have to sit a year, play one, and then would need an unlikely waiver to play his 4th year of eligibility in his 6th year out of high school. But if he does sit this year, then he likely would be an immediately eligible grad transfer for 2020-21, and given his history, we can presume he would transfer again. Quite the trip, indeed.
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Post by motorcitysam on May 24, 2019 9:18:01 GMT -5
Santos left UIC after a solid freshman year for the college basketball big time of the Mizzou Tigers. Averaged 1 point per game last season, appearing in 20 games. The grass is not always greener, but as the Commissioner says, wouldn't shock me to see him transfer again if he sits out this coming season.
For every Bryn Forbes, who made a super successful transition from mid major to high major, there are a bunch more situations like Santos, Brock Stull, Mark Alstork, etc., that fail from a basketball perspective.
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Post by rbj on May 24, 2019 11:25:18 GMT -5
Santos left UIC after a solid freshman year for the college basketball big time of the Mizzou Tigers. Averaged 1 point per game last season, appearing in 20 games. The grass is not always greener, but as the Commissioner says, wouldn't shock me to see him transfer again if he sits out this coming season. For every Bryn Forbes, who made a super successful transition from mid major to high major, there are a bunch more situations like Santos, Brock Stull, Mark Alstork, etc., that fail from a basketball perspective. You are correct, some of these guys just cant resist the allure of the bright lights. Jaaron Simmons is another example of a player who wasnt successful at a higher level, Simmons averaged 15 pts. per game for Ohio U and was the favorite to win MAC player of the year the following season, he transferred to UofM and averaged 1.5ppg and didnt start a single game. I guess our own Jason Calliste can be considered a success story of a player who transferred up, he averaged 12.7 ppg for Oregon in his grad transfer season, although I think Calliste would've been better off had he remained at UofD, he would've averaged at least 20 ppg that season, instead of being the go to guy that year, Juwan Howard would've been a nice second option.
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Post by motorcitysam on May 25, 2019 12:36:59 GMT -5
Prayers up. Former UIC head coach Howard Moore and his family were involved in a serious car accident here in Michigan. Details are sketchy but there are fatalities.
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Post by Commissioner on May 29, 2019 5:47:15 GMT -5
According to verbal commits, KJ Santos is returning to UIC as a grad transfer. What a long strange trip it's been. I don't think Santos is a grad transfer. He's three years out of high school. VC does not list him as immediately eligible. He could have graduated in 3 years, but most kids don't. Anyway, he's only used two years of eligibility, so if he's a grad transfer he'd have two years to play with UIC (if he can get himself to stick around). If he's not, he'll have to sit a year, play one, and then would need an unlikely waiver to play his 4th year of eligibility in his 6th year out of high school. But if he does sit this year, then he likely would be an immediately eligible grad transfer for 2020-21, and given his history, we can presume he would transfer again. Quite the trip, indeed. Word is that Santos has ill immediate family member and will request waiver for immediate eligibility.
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Post by motorcitysam on May 29, 2019 11:16:40 GMT -5
Santos left UIC after a solid freshman year for the college basketball big time of the Mizzou Tigers. Averaged 1 point per game last season, appearing in 20 games. The grass is not always greener, but as the Commissioner says, wouldn't shock me to see him transfer again if he sits out this coming season. For every Bryn Forbes, who made a super successful transition from mid major to high major, there are a bunch more situations like Santos, Brock Stull, Mark Alstork, etc., that fail from a basketball perspective. You are correct, some of these guys just cant resist the allure of the bright lights. Jaaron Simmons is another example of a player who wasnt successful at a higher level, Simmons averaged 15 pts. per game for Ohio U and was the favorite to win MAC player of the year the following season, he transferred to UofM and averaged 1.5ppg and didnt start a single game. I guess our own Jason Calliste can be considered a success story of a player who transferred up, he averaged 12.7 ppg for Oregon in his grad transfer season, although I think Calliste would've been better off had he remained at UofD, he would've averaged at least 20 ppg that season, instead of being the go to guy that year, Juwan Howard would've been a nice second option. Thanks, RBJ. I couldn't remember the Simmons kid's name, but he is a great example. Howard and Calliste would have been a nice one/two punch.
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Post by motorcitysam on May 29, 2019 11:27:25 GMT -5
I don't think Santos is a grad transfer. He's three years out of high school. VC does not list him as immediately eligible. He could have graduated in 3 years, but most kids don't. Anyway, he's only used two years of eligibility, so if he's a grad transfer he'd have two years to play with UIC (if he can get himself to stick around). If he's not, he'll have to sit a year, play one, and then would need an unlikely waiver to play his 4th year of eligibility in his 6th year out of high school. But if he does sit this year, then he likely would be an immediately eligible grad transfer for 2020-21, and given his history, we can presume he would transfer again. Quite the trip, indeed. Word is that Santos has ill immediate family member and will request waiver for immediate eligibility. Always seemed to me like that NCAA's reaction to a transfer for a sick relative was illogical, IF he player's concern was actually for their family member. It would make more sense for the NCAA to say, "Okay, you have a sick relative. This is probably a stressful time for you, so go ahead and transfer, but sit out this year. Focus on your family and your academics, without the distraction of basketball. We won't count this year against your five year clock. Take care of yourself and your family." Of course, we know that a lot of those "family illness" situations arise simply because the player is looking to get a waiver. Too bad Chris Jenkins didn't have a little cousin with a cold that he could have parlayed into a waiver.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 12:17:20 GMT -5
Word is that Santos has ill immediate family member and will request waiver for immediate eligibility. Always seemed to me like that NCAA's reaction to a transfer for a sick relative was illogical, IF he player's concern was actually for their family member. It would make more sense for the NCAA to say, "Okay, you have a sick relative. This is probably a stressful time for you, so go ahead and transfer, but sit out this year. Focus on your family and your academics, without the distraction of basketball. We won't count this year against your five year clock. Take care of yourself and your family." Of course, we know that a lot of those "family illness" situations arise simply because the player is looking to get a waiver. Too bad Chris Jenkins didn't have a little cousin with a cold that he could have parlayed into a waiver. It's funny you mention the whole waiver thing - When I realized Miller (our visitor today) was seemingly a sit one to play one situation, the first thing I thought of was a waiver (Family illness/closer to home/etc). Then I realized that he's from Kentucky. Although, according to google maps, using the fastest route (Cajundome in Louisiana to Beaver Dam, KY = 710 Miles) (Calihan Hall to Beaver Dam, Ky = 477 Miles). I wonder if the NCAA would buy what I'm trying to sell.....
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 8, 2019 16:41:46 GMT -5
Prayers up. Former UIC head coach Howard Moore and his family were involved in a serious car accident here in Michigan. Details are sketchy but there are fatalities. Update on Coach Moore, who is reportedly leaving the hospital and heading back home.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 18:26:07 GMT -5
Detroiter (& U of D offeree) Brian Taylor commits to UIC
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Post by Commissioner on Jun 14, 2019 21:44:30 GMT -5
Forward Jordan Blount tore his ACL and his meniscus, and is probably out for the season. Averaged 9.3 points and 5.6 rebounds last year.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 14, 2019 22:44:07 GMT -5
Forward Jordan Blount tore his ACL and his meniscus, and is probably out for the season. Averaged 9.3 points and 5.6 rebounds last year. Oh, no. That is terrible news. Godspeed on your recovery, young man.
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Post by ptctitan on Jul 29, 2019 7:48:49 GMT -5
More personnel turnover in the HL. UIC's AD leaves to take new job at Nebraska as Deputy AD - External Operations. He lasted 2 years at UIC. Link to articleWill Coach McClain be dusting off his resume?
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Post by motorcitysam on Jul 30, 2019 11:31:32 GMT -5
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