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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 8, 2015 13:49:12 GMT -5
Jeff Goodman with an important reminder on Twitter:
Jeff Goodman @goodmanespn 5m5 minutes ago Remember, with all these transfers, there are no hardship waivers anymore. Have to sit a year unless a 5th year grad transfer.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 8, 2015 16:18:31 GMT -5
One big difference between times past and today is the devaluing of years of eligibility. Take this example: This player scored seven points per game as a redshirt freshman at Miami, a strong program in the ACC. As a redshirt freshman, he has already lost a year, but he is going to transfer and lose another year. Guys used to hate to sacrifice a year of playing, and would do everything they could to be eligible for four years, but it's a different mindset today. I believe a lot of these guys think they are one good year away from the NBA, so what's the big deal about losing college eligibility?
Then again, maybe the coaching staff is encouraging him to leave, although looking at their roster and incoming recruits, I don't see why that would be the case.
Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 13m13 minutes ago Miami guard Deandre Burnett is also transferring. Averaged 7.0 points as a redshirt freshman.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 14, 2015 13:22:26 GMT -5
Truth from twitter:
PrepScouting (NCAA) @highmajorscoop 1m1 minute ago When a Mid-major HS kid de-commits this time of the year & heads to a BCS program--very high chance there gonna be a FUTURE TRANSFER!
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 14, 2015 13:26:58 GMT -5
Here is an interesting perspective on transfers and recruiting from Eric Bossi. Commissioner, this sounds similar to what you have said before about what a player should consider when choosing a school.
Eric Bossi @ebosshoops · 16h 16 hours ago keep seeing all the stuff about transfers being quitters, not patient. @ some point we have to discuss that half are getting pushed out door
Eric Bossi @ebosshoops · 16h 16 hours ago Most times, the transfers getting pushed out the door are players that programs took knowing very well they weren’t a fit or good enough
Eric Bossi @ebosshoops · 16h 16 hours ago I totally agree kids are giving up too easily in tough situations. But at the same time, many are because they were never wanted for 4 years
Eric Bossi @ebosshoops · 16h 16 hours ago Why my best advice remains that most non elite/surefire high level spring kids go a level lower than biggest school recruiting them.
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Post by Commissioner on Apr 19, 2015 12:04:11 GMT -5
This is kind of interesting: YSU's Marcus Keene is transferring to Central Michigan. Strikes me as a good move for Keene - rather than try for a high major where he'd probably see his PT reduced, he is essentially moving to a comparable league, but to a program that is on its way up. He'll play about the same role as at YSU, but presumably in better circumstances.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 22, 2015 15:10:14 GMT -5
Here is an interesting article describing how BYU freshman center Issac Neilson was run off the team. I'm sure he was surprised. As a freshman, he played nine minutes per game, seeing action in every game but one. He's a 6-10, 230 pound center. He averaged 3 points and two rebounds on the season. His production tailed off towards the end of the year, but he's a freshman; I would have expected it. This is a good reminder that just as we ask why a kid chose a school where he wasn't a good fit, we need to ask coaches why they recruit young players only to discard them after a year. www.sltrib.com/blogs/byusports/2427072-155/byu-basketball-neilson-shocked-that-he
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 23, 2015 11:57:05 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 26, 2015 18:05:36 GMT -5
Looks like the NCAA will be taking a closer look at the graduate transfer rule. I think that's probably a good idea. The rule was put in place to allow graduates to get an early start on their Master's degree by immediately being able to transfer to a school that had the field of study they were interested in, but it seems to have turned into a "shop for a degree/shop for a school" situation, with only athletics as the motivation. Of course, you can make the case that all big time college sports decisions are made with athletics in mind. I'd be interested in seeing how many athletes actually make progress towards their Master's degrees in that fifth year. collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/26/new-ncaa-vp-of-division-i-governance-wants-to-take-closer-look-at-graduate-transfer-rules/
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 27, 2015 14:59:45 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 30, 2015 20:24:20 GMT -5
Eric Bossi with some insight on the effect of graduate transfers:
Eric Bossi @ebosshoops 4m4 minutes ago Part of what has been good about mid majors has been their usage of redshirts. They will have to stop redshirting for self preservation.
Eric Bossi @ebosshoops 3m3 minutes ago Fact is, there are coaches out there combing rosters of low & mid major teams looking for graduating juniors who put up good numbers.
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Post by Commissioner on May 3, 2015 18:48:11 GMT -5
Anybody remember Josh Herlihy? He signed an LOI with Utah in the fall of 2011, but after a disappointing senior year in HS (in part due to injury), Utah asked him to go elsewhere in the spring. sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger-college-basketball-blog/utah-risking-reputation-running-off-signed-recruit-145230410.html. But a lot of teams that had offered him had, of course, moved on and signed others. Herlihy ended up going the prep route for a year, then signed with Tulane in the class of '13. Anyway, after two years of playing sparingly at Tulane, he is now transferring to Vermont. If Herlihy sits out a year and then plays 2 more years, he'll be 24 years old for his final season.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 22, 2015 14:16:27 GMT -5
Former Florida Gator Eli Carter announced today that he would be transferring to Boston College. This will be his third college. He started out at Rutgers where he scored 15 ppg as a freshman. He transferred after that season to Florida, and got a waiver to play immediately. For some reason, he only played 53 minutes his first season there, and this past year he averaged 8.8 ppg for Florida. He decided to transfer again, and is now headed for Boston College.
The funniest part of this whole episode is the start of Eli's announcement today: "First I would like to say thanks to all three schools for the relentless pursuit in my abilities." LOL. Were they really 'relentless." :-)
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 23, 2015 13:22:32 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 25, 2015 13:33:15 GMT -5
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Post by Commissioner on Jul 8, 2015 7:32:35 GMT -5
A transfer announced last week that caught my eye is rising sophomore Ahmaad Rorie leaving Oregon for Montana. The Titans were reported as having interest in Rorie way back in the early days of his recruitment. Rorie verbally committed early (as a HS sophomore) to California, signed with them in the fall of 2013, but then was granted his release and signed with Oregon in May 2014 after coach Mike Montgomery was nudged out at Cal. He had a solid freshman season at Oregon--played in all 36 games, starting 15. Against UD last November he started and had 6 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists in 26 minutes of play. Overall he had a pretty solid freshman year by most standards. But his PT did drop a bit late in the year and I guess he saw himself slipping behind another rising soph PG, Casey Bensen, plus Oregon recruited a 4-star PG in this year's class. One suspects he and Dana Altman sat down and the latter indicated that Rorie would not be a key part of future plans. You just sort of figure a kid who starts 15 games as a freshman on an NCAA tournament team has a pretty bright future there, but I guess it is not always so.
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