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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 13, 2023 20:26:07 GMT -5
A bunch of them are on their second and third transfers, too.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 22, 2023 21:28:35 GMT -5
The NCAA released this memo to provide guidance on the rules for transfers on their second (and beyond) transfer. Really doesn't change anything. Still gives the NCAA leeway to issue waivers in an random manner that is sure to draw criticism and ire.
Once they passed the one time exception, they should have killed the waiver process.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 24, 2023 22:43:36 GMT -5
Based on what I am seeing on social media, it seems like there is a template out there for players to use when announcing that they are transferring.
- Thank God for allowing me the opportunity to play the game that I love. - Thank the fans at my current institution for all the love and support. I'll always be a (name of mascot.) - Thank my teammates for being by my side. They are my brothers for life. - Thank the coaching staff for believing in me when no one else did. - Use the phrase "with that being said" and announce that I am entering the portal with X number of years of eligibility. - (Optional:) Admonish everyone to "respect my decision".
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 7, 2023 14:42:03 GMT -5
This is why mid major coaches stay stressed out: Jalen Cook signed with LSU as a four star recruit in the class of 2020. He struggled there, playing only 7 minutes per game and averaging 3 points per game. He decided to hit the portal and ended up at Tulane, where he blossomed under Coach Hunter (and Coach Ray) scoring 18 ppg as a sophomore and 20 as a junior, helping Tulane to a 20-11 record, their best showing in a long time. Last month Cook entered the portal. And transferred back to LSU.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 14, 2023 14:14:38 GMT -5
One of two things is going to happen before the new season start in the fall:
1. A lot of players who transferred more than once are going to be really disappointed that they have to sit out.
or
2. We realize that the NCAA was lying when they said that they were going to crack down and stop routinely issuing waivers.
A good number of players in the portal are on their second and third transfers.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Apr 14, 2023 14:25:27 GMT -5
One of two things is going to happen before the new season start in the fall: 1. A lot of players who transferred more than once are going to be really disappointed that they have to sit out. or 2. We realize that the NCAA was lying when they said that they were going to crack down and stop routinely issuing waivers. A good number of players in the portal are on their second and third transfers. From a recent article: “a player can receive immediate eligibility if they have a physical injury or mental health condition that pushed them to transfer from a school. Additionally, the NCAA will consider ‘exigent circumstances’ that could force a player to leave an institution -- like sexual assault or abuse. No other factors will be considered, including academic considerations or playing time.” If a student transferred twice before but managed to earn a degree along the way, they would be immediately eligible, no waiver required. I think the NCAA is going to be much tougher on granting waivers, but we’ll see.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 14, 2023 14:35:17 GMT -5
One of two things is going to happen before the new season start in the fall: 1. A lot of players who transferred more than once are going to be really disappointed that they have to sit out. or 2. We realize that the NCAA was lying when they said that they were going to crack down and stop routinely issuing waivers. A good number of players in the portal are on their second and third transfers. From a recent article: “a player can receive immediate eligibility if they have a physical injury or mental health condition that pushed them to transfer from a school. Additionally, the NCAA will consider ‘exigent circumstances’ that could force a player to leave an institution -- like sexual assault or abuse. No other factors will be considered, including academic considerations or playing time.” If a student transferred twice before but managed to earn a degree along the way, they would be immediately eligible, no waiver required. I think the NCAA is going to be much tougher on granting waivers, but we’ll see. I hope that's the case, because the way it has been seems untenable, but I think we will see a lot of players attempting to play the "mental health" card.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Apr 14, 2023 15:04:38 GMT -5
I think for the current recruiting season there will be some degree of uncertainty as to how tough the NCAA will be in granting waivers (but the assumption will be much tougher than in the past). For that reason, I think that athletes requiring a waiver for immediate eligibility are going to be much less an attractive commodity in the portal marketplace, where coaches essentially go for an immediate fix to plug a roster hole for the coming season.
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Post by Commissioner on Apr 14, 2023 17:35:05 GMT -5
One of two things is going to happen before the new season start in the fall: 1. A lot of players who transferred more than once are going to be really disappointed that they have to sit out. or 2. We realize that the NCAA was lying when they said that they were going to crack down and stop routinely issuing waivers. A good number of players in the portal are on their second and third transfers. From a recent article: “a player can receive immediate eligibility if they have a physical injury or mental health condition that pushed them to transfer from a school. Additionally, the NCAA will consider ‘exigent circumstances’ that could force a player to leave an institution -- like sexual assault or abuse. No other factors will be considered, including academic considerations or playing time.” If a student transferred twice before but managed to earn a degree along the way, they would be immediately eligible, no waiver required. I think the NCAA is going to be much tougher on granting waivers, but we’ll see. I hope when they say "exigent circumstances" such as "sexual assault or abuse" they mean the player was on the receiving end, not that the player has to transfer after being accused or convicted of such.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Apr 16, 2023 22:15:43 GMT -5
I read a post on the Oakland fan message board that Greg Kampe recently commented on his radio show that he is not interested in recruiting high school players in the current transfer intensive system. If a HS recruit doesn’t get playing time in what should be a developmental year, he is unhappy and heads to the portal. If the player is good enough to earn some more substantial minutes as a freshman or sophomore, they head to the portal seeking a higher level program.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 17, 2023 13:36:56 GMT -5
I read a post on the Oakland fan message board that Greg Kampe recently commented on his radio show that he is not interested in recruiting high school players in the current transfer intensive system. If a HS recruit doesn’t get playing time in what should be a developmental year, he is unhappy and heads to the portal. If the player is good enough to earn some more substantial minutes as a freshman or sophomore, they head to the portal seeking a higher level program. I get it. He makes some good points. He's been burned by some Grizzlies transferring up and high school recruits have certainly lost value in the current system.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 20, 2023 19:53:56 GMT -5
Duquesne grad transfer Kevin Easley Jr. is committing to Coastal Carolina. This will be his fourth school. He had a good freshman year at Chattanooga, averaging 14 point and 7 boards per game. He used that to transfer to TCU, sitting a year before taking the court for the Horned Frogs. He couldn't get traction at TCU, averaging 4.5 points per game. He transferred to Duquesne, scoring 10 points per game in his first year there, but only played in three games last year.
Coastal Carolina will be his fourth school, but don't worry, he said in his social media post that this one is going to be "special".
That's today's college basketball.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 28, 2023 11:53:05 GMT -5
One of two things is going to happen before the new season start in the fall: 1. A lot of players who transferred more than once are going to be really disappointed that they have to sit out. or 2. We realize that the NCAA was lying when they said that they were going to crack down and stop routinely issuing waivers. A good number of players in the portal are on their second and third transfers. I posted this a couple of weeks ago, and it still seems like coaches and players are carefully watching to see which way the NCAA is going to go on waiver approvals. In a recent article in The Athletic, several coaches spoke off the record about it, with one expressing concern that some multi time transfer players and their handlers are going to attempt to abuse the "mental health" reason in order to gain immediate eligibility. I can totally see that happening; I remember a few years ago how many players suddenly came up with sick relatives that happened to be living right near the school they wanted to play for. Most coaches spoke off the record, but Oklahoma State coach Mike Boynton was critical on the record towards the NCAA. Of course, Boynton has been at odds with the NCAA since they threw the book at OK State for violations related to that big scandal a few years ago, while at the same time basically coddling programs like Memphis, Kansas, Arizona, Louisville, etc; I'm not surprised that Boynton was willing to go on the record with his complaints. I have no confidence that the NCAA will administer this waiver process in a fair and equitable way. EDIT: And right on cue, Aziz Bandaogo announces he is entering the transfer portal. In his announcement, he states that the most important reason he is transferring is "for my mental health". He spent two years at Akron before transferring to Utah Valley last season. He's publicly laying the groundwork for an immediate eligibility waiver.
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Post by fan on Apr 28, 2023 15:17:15 GMT -5
One day the NCAA will "rule" itself out of existence. Right now their reason for still being here is they run a great tournament in March. Someday ESPN or CBS will decide they don't need them anymore.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 28, 2023 16:31:01 GMT -5
One day the NCAA will "rule" itself out of existence. Right now their reason for still being here is they run a great tournament in March. Someday ESPN or CBS will decide they don't need them anymore. They have just made this transfer thing ridiculously harder than it needed to be. The smart thing to do, and I think it was the Commissioner who suggested it, is just have the rule that you can transfer one time without sitting, and any other time you want to transfer you sit out a year. No waivers, no exigent circumstances, no exceptions. It eliminates the main problem that student athletes and their advocates had with transfers, that you had to sit out a year. Having the one time exception and still allowing a waiver process just creates more work and an unequal system. Combine that with the NIL environment, and it's going to be untenable for a lot of mid majors, and probably for some of the power conference teams that don't have a big NIL benefactor.
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