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Post by motorcitysam on Nov 8, 2022 11:49:16 GMT -5
At the end of the 2021-22 season, USC Coach Andy Enfield received a big contract extension. The Trojans have played two games since; an upset loss to Miami in the NCAA tournament and a blowout loss at home to Florida Gulf Coast. Too late for second thoughts. Speaking of FGCU, there is an interesting bit of information in the ESPN article about last night's game. After FGCU made their "Dunk City" run in the NCAA tournament under Enfield, out of state student applications went up 88% and launched a fundraising campaign that raised 100 million. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34977118/fgcu-beats-andy-enfield-usc-10-years-dunk-city
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Post by motorcitysam on Dec 2, 2022 9:07:36 GMT -5
Is there any team out there as inconsistent as Colorado? They are 4-4 and haven't put together a streak of any kind all season. They have looked great and terrible. Their eight games so far:
16 point win over UC Riverside. 9 point loss to Grambling. 12 point win over #11 Tennessee. 3 point loss to UMass. 18 point win over #24 Texas A&M. 13 point loss to Boise State. 3 point win over Yale. 1 point loss to Arizona State after blowing a 12 point lead with five minutes left.
Hard to understand how a team can look so good one game and so bad the next.
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Post by Commissioner on Dec 2, 2022 9:11:42 GMT -5
Is there any team out there as inconsistent as Colorado? They are 4-4 and haven't put together a streak of any kind all season. They have looked great and terrible. Their eight games so far: 16 point win over UC Riverside. 9 point loss to Grambling. 12 point win over #11 Tennessee. 3 point loss to UMass. 18 point win over #24 Texas A&M. 13 point loss to Boise State. 3 point win over Yale. 1 point loss to Arizona State after blowing a 12 point lead with five minutes left. Hard to understand how a team can look so good one game and so bad the next. I think Colorado has us beat, but we could very well be in the Inconsistent Top 10.
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Post by motorcitysam on Dec 2, 2022 11:25:03 GMT -5
Is there any team out there as inconsistent as Colorado? They are 4-4 and haven't put together a streak of any kind all season. They have looked great and terrible. Their eight games so far: 16 point win over UC Riverside. 9 point loss to Grambling. 12 point win over #11 Tennessee. 3 point loss to UMass. 18 point win over #24 Texas A&M. 13 point loss to Boise State. 3 point win over Yale. 1 point loss to Arizona State after blowing a 12 point lead with five minutes left. Hard to understand how a team can look so good one game and so bad the next. I think Colorado has us beat, but we could very well be in the Inconsistent Top 10. The Titans probably lead the nation in "Looking Like Two Completely Different Teams During the Same Game". The BC game comes to mind.
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Post by fan on Dec 2, 2022 15:29:07 GMT -5
Teams like Colorado and the way they perform usually comes down to chemistry, these days the transfers and players really make it difficult for teams to reset and jell annually. I've seen enough of this edition of UDM's team to predict that the talent is there, if the stars align, this can be a 20-win team.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jan 11, 2023 19:28:34 GMT -5
Mid Season check of the PAC 12. It's been kind of a mess for the "Conference of Champions". The latest NET ratings have 2 PAC 12 teams in the top 50. UCLA is ranked 7 in the AP Poll and Arizona is number 9. After that, it's pretty slim pickings for the PAC 12. The conference had an embarrassing showing in the PAC 12/SWAC Legacy Series, going 3-3. To make matters worse, a winless Southern team beat California in another PAC12/SWAC matchup that wasn't officially part of the Legacy Series. The Conference offered up plenty of nominees for Mid Major Win of the Day, starting with the opening night of the season when Cal lost to UC Davis and USC dropped a game to Florida Gulf Coast. The menmotum (what Pat Riley calls the opposite of momentum) continued a couple of nights later when #21 Oregon fell to UC Irvine. And the beat went on.
- UCLA is a good looking 14-2. Their losses came to two currently unranked Power Five teams. Their two best wins came against currently unranked Power Five teams. They should cruise in a weak PAC 12, except against Arizona.
- Zona is also 14-2, with good wins over Indiana, San Diego State, and Tennessee, but a bad loss to Washington State.
- Arizona State is outperforming expectations in the win/loss column, with a 13-3 record thanks to a soft non-conference schedule. The win over Michigan doesn't look that good, but it's probably their best of the season. They have losses to San Francisco (by 37 points) and Texas Southern.
- Oregon has been hit with injuries, but didn't look good even before that. The Ducks are only 9-7 in overall, with losses to UC Irvine and Utah Valley to go with an understandable three game losing streak to Houston, UConn, and Michigan State.
- Utah is 12-5 also thanks to a soft non-conference schedule that nevertheless included losses to Sam Houston and BYU.
- USC is 11-5. They played a tougher non-con than some of their conference mates and hold a win over Auburn, but they can't shake the losses to Florida Gulf Coast and they suffered a bad loss to Washington State.
- Colorado has been inconsistent all year, and are 3-3 in league play.
- California started the season looking like the worst Power Five team in country, dropping 12 in a row. They have won 2 of their last three however, with two wins over league opponents.
- Oregon State pulled off the unlikely "accomplishment" of losing twice in the same season to Portland State. Best win for the Beavers? A three point loss to Duke.
We are now entering the point in the season where some PAC 12 teams do well in conference play and get credit in the ratings for beating other Power 5 teams, even though those teams are bad. They'll probably put more teams in the Big Dance than actually deserve it.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 8, 2023 19:46:27 GMT -5
Jaylen Clark of UCLA, who was named Defensive Player of the Year in the PAC 12, is out for the rest of the season due to a leg injury. Big news for the Bruins.
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Post by titansforever on Mar 8, 2023 19:59:15 GMT -5
Cal just finished 3-29. So long, Mark Fox. Cal athletics are a complete train wreck.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 8, 2023 21:33:29 GMT -5
Official PAC 12 Honors.
Coach of the Year: Mick Cronin, UCLA Player of the Year: Jamie Jacquez, UCLA
The league did name and all conference first team, but they listed ten players on it, so I refuse to recognize it. Keep it to five, people.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 21, 2023 21:41:19 GMT -5
Bobby Hurley received a two year extension at Arizona State. In eight years at ASU, Hurley has made the NCAA tournament three times, with two "First Four" wins to show for it. No NIT trips. Under .500 in league play. Apparently ASU has lowered their standards since they fired Herb Sendek.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 6, 2023 16:38:48 GMT -5
Oregon State is retaining Wayne Tinkle after an 11-21 season followed a 3-28 season. Hey, an eight game improvement!
In 9 years at OSU, Tinkle has won 35% of his games the PAC 12, with two post season appearances. Apparently Oregon State has lowered their standards since they fired Craig Robinson.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 8, 2023 18:18:58 GMT -5
PAC 12 Official Pre Season Poll. 1. UCLA 2. Arizona 3. Oregon 4. USC 5. Stanford 6. Colorado 7. Arizona State 8. Washington State 9. Washington 10. Utah 11. California 12. Oregon State If the season goes this way, the coaches at Washington, Arizona State, and Oregon State will definitely be in danger come Spring 2023. Final 2022-23 PAC 12 standings: 1. UCLA 18-2, 31-6 2. Arizona 14-6, 28-7 3. USC 14-6, 22-11 4. Oregon 12-8, 22-15 5. Arizona State 11-9, 23-13 6. Washington State 11-9, 17-17 7. Utah 8. Colorado 9. Washington 10. Stanford 11. Oregon State 12. California I know I have given the PAC 12 a hard time the past few years, but come one, they are practically begging for it. They schedule soft, and still provide more candidates for Mid Major Win of the Day than any other power conference. They give big extensions to undeserving coaches. To make matters worse, now their flagship programs are running off to the Big Ten. UCLA was the class of the conference this past season, winning the league by four games. They lost to Gonzaga in the Sweet Sixteen. Mick Cronin has been at UCLA for four years. The first year the NCAA tournament was cancelled, but in the three years since it's been Final Four, Sweet Sixteen, and Sweet Sixteen for the Bruins. Not too shabby. Arizona won the conference tournament this season and grabbed a #2 seed in the Big Dance, only to fall in the first round to Princeton. USC made the Dance but fell to Michigan State in the first round. That's two straight opening round losses for Andy "Dunk City" Enfield who got a huge extension last year. Oregon's slump continued into its second year as the Ducks lost 15 games. Arizona State outperformed predictions and won 23 games. They got a First Four win over Nevada, but lost to TCU in the round of 64. Washington State crushed our Titans in the non-con, but also lost to Prairie View. The Cougars finished the regular season at 17-16. They did make the NIT, falling to Eastern Washington in the first round. Washington went 8-12, in ninth place as predicted, but the Coach Hopkins is being retained. (Big buyout.) Oregon State avoided the cellar because California was historically bad, but it was another 20 loss season for the Beavers. They are retaining Coach Tinkle. (Big Buyout.) Rumors are that San Diego State might make the move to the PAC 12, but really, the conference needs to be working to retain their current members as well. For awhile it was rumored that an Oregon move to the Big 16 was imminent, but that talk has quieted. For now, everyone in the league is waiting for the other shoes to drop. Their are hoping to come to an agreement on a new media rights deal this summer.
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Post by motorcitysam on May 6, 2023 17:21:45 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Aug 2, 2023 17:06:06 GMT -5
The recent television rights proposed deal that the PAC 12 leadership brought to the member schools this week is not likely to do anything to solidify the league's uncertain future. It seems to be primarily dependent upon the streaming service Apple TV, and has a low pay out at the start of the deal. Advocates say that the deal will increase in value as subscriptions rise. All things considered, that doesn't sound like a great plan to me. None of the league's member institutions seem to be happy about it. I don't know much about the world of sports programming, but it seems like it would be possible to a deal for the conference that isn't dependent on subscriptions and had at least a decent guaranteed payout. The PAC 12 dates back to 1915. Are we about to see it crumble? It seems well on the way, with the losses of UCLA, USC, and Colorado, and rumors of the Big 12 and Big Ten eyeing Oregon, Washington, Cal, Stanford, Arizona, and Arizona State. I give PAC 12 basketball a hard time on this message board, because they have underachieved for the past several years, but I hate seeing what is going on with the league now. www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/pac-12-commish-presents-potential-tv-deal-to-school-leaders-with-no-agreement-being-reached-per-reports/
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Post by motorcitysam on Aug 17, 2023 20:08:42 GMT -5
This gives some interesting information on the PAC 12 meltdown. Take it for what it's worth, since a lot of it comes from unnamed sources. According to this writer, the PAC 12 had an offer from ESPN that would pay each school 30 million annually in 2022. However, the PAC 12 counter offered with a figure of 50 million per year. The four letter network said, "Nope", which led to the PAC 12 chasing Apple TV for a streaming deal. While many talking heads are blaming the league commissioner for the failure, I found this passage interesting. T he Pac-12 got an offer of $30 million per school from ESPN in the fall of 2022. It included all the conference’s media rights, including the Pac-12 Network. But the conference presidents and chancellors believed they could do much better. The board instructed Kliavkoff to reject ESPN’s proposal and make a lopsided counter-offer. The commissioner should have pushed back and managed expectations in the room. He should have been more tuned into the eroding media landscape. Kliavkoff followed the order and the consequences were grave.www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-an-empty-gun-the-downfall?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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