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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 10:22:04 GMT -5
We don't have a 2012 recruiting thread to refer back to, so I figured I'd put this here under the "you never know what that offer may turn into":
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 16:19:04 GMT -5
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Post by larrytitan on Apr 1, 2020 20:15:59 GMT -5
It's a first world problem. I decided to attend U-D without visiting campus. It's time to grow up!🏀
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 17:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 16:51:32 GMT -5
Interesting conversation on Twitter
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Post by nctitan on Sept 11, 2020 6:32:22 GMT -5
The 2020 list includes two Detroit area recruits.
Are the coaches complaining that local players aren't being recruited (which they are, apparently) or are they complaining that local coaches are being hired? And if local coaches are discouraging local players from attending Detroit Mercy then there is a vicious circle going on there.
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Post by Commissioner on Sept 11, 2020 7:10:21 GMT -5
Here's the sad truth. For 2020, their are 2-count 'em, two--Detroit PSL/Catholic League kids going D-1: Cass Tech teammates Tyrone Acuff, for whom I believe we pushed hard before losing out to Duquesne, and Kyle LeGreair, who will be attending ... UD.
The class of 2019 had four PSL/Catholic kids sign with D-1 teams-- Cass Tech's Kyle Whitehead, whose only D-I offer was Chicago State; Chandler Turner of Renaissance (Bowling Green), and two UDJ kids, Danny Friday (Brown) and Jalen Thomas (Georgia State). We offered the last three.
For upcoming 2021, we've offered Detroiters Kwesi Henry (Detroit Loyola), Javantae Randle (Frederick Douglas), Chancey Willis (MLK), and Pierre Brooks (Frederick Douglas; committed to MSU), and recruited Julian Roper (committed to Northwestern).
You could expand these lists to include the metro area (yes, we offered Legend Geeter and others). The reality is that Detroit is no longer a talent-rich market. That's yet another hurdle for our recovery as a program. But I don't blame the staff. Win with what we can get, and maybe guys like Geeter and Acuff will start to stay home again.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Sept 11, 2020 8:59:40 GMT -5
I think the Commish is right. There isn't a lot of talent in Detroit anymore and what few there are are getting picked over by UM and MSU before we get to them. The coaching staff has to get the best players possible or the same people who want them to recruit local will be screaming for their heads. I just got back from a run to Columbus and the most depressing area of the entire trip was metro Detroit. We have not experienced the hoarding and excessive prices here yet but after being down there it makes us nervous.
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Post by Commissioner on Sept 11, 2020 10:13:47 GMT -5
I think the Commish is right. There isn't a lot of talent in Detroit anymore and what few there are are getting picked over by UM and MSU before we get to them. The coaching staff has to get the best players possible or the same people who want them to recruit local will be screaming for their heads. I just got back from a run to Columbus and the most depressing area of the entire trip was metro Detroit. We have not experienced the hoarding and excessive prices here yet but after being down there it makes us nervous. 1) Geesh, UP, you hop in the car and drive hundreds of miles more than anyone I've ever seen. Hat's off to you, especially for your loyal trips to Calihan. 2) The decline in talent in Detroit not only hurts our ability to recruit, but it hurts our attractiveness to a better league. In the early 1990s the coaches of the new Great Midwest (which morphed into the original Conference USA--both were really good leagues, just below the P5) really wanted Detroit because they wanted an entre into the Detroit recruiting market. Nowadays I doubt that we'd get that support.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Sept 11, 2020 10:22:53 GMT -5
I think the Commish is right. There isn't a lot of talent in Detroit anymore and what few there are are getting picked over by UM and MSU before we get to them. The coaching staff has to get the best players possible or the same people who want them to recruit local will be screaming for their heads. I just got back from a run to Columbus and the most depressing area of the entire trip was metro Detroit. We have not experienced the hoarding and excessive prices here yet but after being down there it makes us nervous. 1) Geesh, UP, you hop in the car and drive hundreds of miles more than anyone I've ever seen. Hat's off to you, especially for your loyal trips to Calihan. 2) The decline in talent in Detroit not only hurts our ability to recruit, but it hurts our attractiveness to a better league. In the early 1990s the coaches of the new Great Midwest (which morphed into the original Conference USA--both were really good leagues, just below the P5) really wanted Detroit because they wanted an entre into the Detroit recruiting market. Nowadays I doubt that we'd get that support. I was close to you. I went to Etna for three days for my grandsons 4th birthday and took him to Whits in Pataskala on Broad St. and City BBQ off of 40.
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Post by motorcitysam on Sept 11, 2020 13:03:26 GMT -5
Interesting conversation on Twitter Yeah, I'm calling BS on that post. I'm not familiar with Coach Cam, but I see from his Twitter bio that he is a former high school and D2 coach, currently looking to get back into coaching. You never know if a post like this is put up just to draw attention. He makes the statement that Davis and staff "refuse" to recruit the State, and when someone points out we have two Michigan players in this class, he says, "two players in two yeas isn't enough". Make up your mind. Do we refuse to recruit in Michigan, or do we not recruit as many Michiganians as you would like? I am wondering if this stems from an instant of a recruit this guy is somehow connected to, who wanted a Titan offer and didn't get it. The staff does not "refuse" to recruit the state of Michigan. Even if you aren't a frequent visitor to this board to keep up with Titan recruiting, a one second glance at the roster shows that we recruit the State. As has been said, the talent level here isn't what it used to be, due to population loss, school closures, and the popularity of the "move to an out of state prep school" path. Off the top of my head, I believe the Titans made 2020 offers to Acuff, Wendell Green, Scooby Johnson, and Dre Polk, in addition to the two Michigan kids we signed. I don't see how that is "refusing" to recruit in Michigan. RBJ recently reminded me that back in the day a couple of second tier PSL players, Paris McCurdy and Curtis Kidd, took Ball State on a fantastic tournament run, barely losing to eventual champ UNLV. Unfortunately, those talent rich PSL days are long gone. And while we'd all love to have a great team made up of Detroit area kids, the main thing is getting good players, regardless of hometown. And the current state of the Titan program means that we can't just get our pick of players. We have quite a sales job to do. We need to focus on getting the best players we can get. If they are from Michigan, that's fine, but that can't be the overriding factor. I haven't heard of any area coaches purposely not sending players to U of D, and I talk to a few coaches. I'll ask around. That would be a shortsighted thing to do, and a disservice to the kids who would benefit from playing close to home and getting a great education.
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Post by nctitan on Sept 11, 2020 15:56:15 GMT -5
The Oakland roster has three Michigan players, two from Detroit. The Detroit roster has two from Detroit and a walk-on from Lansing.
Michigan State has six Michigan kids (including Izzo's son, a walk-on). Michigan has seven Michigan players.
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Post by ptctitan on Sept 12, 2020 6:34:01 GMT -5
To continue nctitan's line of thought.
EMU has 4 players from Michigan on its roster. None are from Detroit. One is from Southfield. One is a walk-on from East Lansing.
WMU has 4 players from Michigan in its roster. None are from Detroit. The lone Detroit player just transferred to South Alabama. One player is from Canton. The other 3 are from outstate. In the 2020-21 class, WMU took a grad transfer from Illinois who had played at Cal St-Bakersfield, a JUCO from Gary IN, a freshman from Manassas, VA; a freshman from Houston, TX. The lone MI recruit was from Petoskey, a transfer from Northwood Institute.
CMU is much heavier into Michigan talent. The Chippewas have two Detroit PSL players on their roster including Aundre Polk whom we had offered. Remember that Polk, though, went away to SPIRE for his senior year. CMU has 4 outstate players on its roster. Of the 4 press releases on the CMU website announcing signings, though, 3 players are from out of state and one player is from Michigan. There are two freshmen on the roster, Polk and and an outstate player.
So, why would this coach tweet about us and not tweet about the other schools? I agree with mcsam and Commissioner on this issue.
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Post by motorcitysam on Sept 12, 2020 8:24:47 GMT -5
Chicago is still an excellent source of basketball talent, but UIC only has two players from Chicago on their roster. They also have two from Joliet, but no other players from Illinois. They have players from Texas, Australia, Indiana, Kentucky, Nevada, California, and so on.
I'm not quite sure how deep the talent pool is in Milwaukee, but the Panthers only have two Milwaukee players on their roster, a reshirt senior and a freshman, and only one other player from Wisconsin. Their players hometowns range from New Jersey to Texas.
Indianapolis still seems to be a good source for recruiting, but IUPUI has only one Indianapolis player on their roster. They also have two kids from the state of Indiana, one from Huntington, and one from Terre Haute.
Cleveland has two kids from their home city, both juniors.
Point being, we're not really an outlier when compared to other similar programs, especially when you consider that our head coach came from Texas and only got here two years ago.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Sept 12, 2020 10:27:42 GMT -5
Chicago is still an excellent source of basketball talent, but UIC only has two players from Chicago on their roster. They also have two from Joliet, but no other players from Illinois. They have players from Texas, Australia, Indiana, Kentucky, Nevada, California, and so on. I'm not quite sure how deep the talent pool is in Milwaukee, but the Panthers only have two Milwaukee players on their roster, a reshirt senior and a freshman, and only one other player from Wisconsin. Their players hometowns range from New Jersey to Texas. Indianapolis still seems to be a good source for recruiting, but IUPUI has only one Indianapolis player on their roster. They also have two kids from the state of Indiana, one from Huntington, and one from Terre Haute. Cleveland has two kids from their home city, both juniors. Point being, we're not really an outlier when compared to other similar programs, especially when you consider that our head coach came from Texas and only got here two years ago. My feelings are that this coach Cam applied for one of the assistants jobs and didn't get it so his next step is attack. I went into his twitter and see he seems to be an acquaintance of Rashad.
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