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Post by motorcitysam on Sept 12, 2020 11:06:39 GMT -5
Chicago is still an excellent source of basketball talent, but UIC only has two players from Chicago on their roster. They also have two from Joliet, but no other players from Illinois. They have players from Texas, Australia, Indiana, Kentucky, Nevada, California, and so on. I'm not quite sure how deep the talent pool is in Milwaukee, but the Panthers only have two Milwaukee players on their roster, a reshirt senior and a freshman, and only one other player from Wisconsin. Their players hometowns range from New Jersey to Texas. Indianapolis still seems to be a good source for recruiting, but IUPUI has only one Indianapolis player on their roster. They also have two kids from the state of Indiana, one from Huntington, and one from Terre Haute. Cleveland has two kids from their home city, both juniors. Point being, we're not really an outlier when compared to other similar programs, especially when you consider that our head coach came from Texas and only got here two years ago. My feelings are that this coach Cam applied for one of the assistants jobs and didn't get it so his next step is attack. I went into his twitter and see he seems to be an acquaintance of Rashad. I was wondering the same thing. Seems to be a very focused comment, without much basis for singling us out.
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Post by motorcitysam on Sept 12, 2020 11:24:46 GMT -5
On the other side of the coin, the last two classes at High Point U (located in High Point, NC) are very "North Carolina". Three of the four members of the class of 2019, and four of the six members of 2020 hail from the Tar Heel state. The Panthers have one commitment so far for 2020, and he's a guard from the state. There are differences between that situation and the situation at U of D, however. Coach Tubby Smith already had extensive ties to North Carolina when he arrived at High Point in 2018. Also, the Tar Heel state is deep in basketball talent, and while the Big Schools pick off the four and five stars, enough D1 talent wants to stay home that there are good players available for a program on the level of High Point. I don't think we have that kind of depth in the state of Michigan.
But each situation is different. While Coach Smith makes a difference at High Point when it comes to instate recruiting, he wasn't able to recruit local kids to Memphis. There's lots of talent in the Memphis area, but Coach Smith was handcuffed by Penny Hardaway, who wanted the Memphis job and told area high school and AAU coaches to push their players away from Memphis. Penny carries a lot of weight in Memphis, so they listened. Once Smith was fired and Penny got the job, the top two Memphis players that Smith was recruiting signed with Memphis.
Lots of factors come into play when it comes to local recruiting, but any coach would be crazy to purposely ignore his home base as a talent pool. And Mike Davis isn't crazy.
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Post by motorcitysam on Sept 17, 2020 13:16:01 GMT -5
The NCAA has extended the recruiting dead period until at least January 1. If you are a program that has had players in the class of 2021 on campus for unofficial visits before the pandemic hit, this could be a benefit. That probably was a big factor in High Point getting a commitment from a pretty good guard in the class of 2021. If you are a program that didn't get the opportunity to have players in for visits before the pandemic, the extended dead period might be a detriment.
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Post by motorcitysam on Oct 24, 2020 8:12:29 GMT -5
Per reports, the NCAA is voting next week on whether or not to extend the Recruiting Dead Period through the Final Four. Other reports suggest it could be eventually extended through June 2021.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 12:04:02 GMT -5
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Post by Commissioner on Oct 27, 2020 14:48:10 GMT -5
Interesting piece, Scout. I recall how coaches used to talk about how they talked to coaches, teachers, pastors etc. before they'd ever offer a kid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 16:05:48 GMT -5
Illinois is moving high school basketball to the spring. Significant for us as we seem to offer (but never sign) a decent amount of players from that State
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Post by motorcitysam on Nov 22, 2020 10:46:56 GMT -5
The NCAA has extended the recruiting dead period to April 15.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 13:48:54 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Feb 11, 2021 12:39:37 GMT -5
More than usual, this has gotta be a crazy time for college recruiting, especially for mid major coaches and recruits. First, you have the extra year of eligibility given by the NCAA. Then you have the new transfer rule that allows players to transfer without having to sit out a year. High majors have been poaching the mid majors for years already via the grad transfer rule, and in the past couple of years we've seen more big schools willing to take "up" transfers even when the player will have to sit a year. Those factors together lead to so much roster uncertainty for coaches. For the Titans, the concerns have to be if some of their grad transfers decide to use that extra year to play in a bigger program, rather than finish out at U-D. How many of the other players will actually come back, given the other options that might be out there? Coach has said he's looking to add players to the roster, but he's got to be ready to adapt to situations that can change at any minute once the season ends. I can imagine the staff is having some of those, "Hey, we like you, but we're not sure if we'll have room for you" conversations with recruits. Gotta be frustrating for all involved, and of course it will hit the mid majors hardest. When the high majors sneeze, everyone else gets pneumonia.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Feb 11, 2021 13:01:13 GMT -5
More than usual, this has gotta be a crazy time for college recruiting, especially for mid major coaches and recruits. First, you have the extra year of eligibility given by the NCAA. Then you have the new transfer rule that allows players to transfer without having to sit out a year. High majors have been poaching the mid majors for years already via the grad transfer rule, and in the past couple of years we've seen more big schools willing to take "up" transfers even when the player will have to sit a year. Those factors together lead to so much roster uncertainty for coaches. For the Titans, the concerns have to be if some of their grad transfers decide to use that extra year to play in a bigger program, rather than finish out at U-D. How many of the other players will actually come back, given the other options that might be out there? Coach has said he's looking to add players to the roster, but he's got to be ready to adapt to situations that can change at any minute once the season ends. I can imagine the staff is having some of those, "Hey, we like you, but we're not sure if we'll have room for you" conversations with recruits. Gotta be frustrating for all involved, and of course it will hit the mid majors hardest. When the high majors sneeze, everyone else gets pneumonia. I don’t know for sure if the NCAA will allow current grad students to make a free change to yet another school and grad program for the 2021-22 season. Anyone know the answer to that question?
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Post by kirky313 on Feb 11, 2021 21:53:37 GMT -5
most likely not if they transferred for this season.. unless they graduate.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Feb 11, 2021 23:34:44 GMT -5
most likely not if they transferred for this season.. unless they graduate. Unlike undergraduate education, typically only a very small number of credits can be transferred from one graduate program to another. From a purely academic standpoint, the NCAA would look goofy if they adopted a permissive policy encouraging grad transfers to move elsewhere with no restrictions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 18:33:00 GMT -5
Some posts from Twitter
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