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Post by ptctitan on Mar 24, 2024 9:52:09 GMT -5
Michigan fired its coach 8 days after we parted ways with MD and hired his replacement before we even get to final interviews with the usual suspects. I know, "Trust the process." Yet some on here defend Vowels and Taylor and seem to think we have something special there. They are just a couple of dead weights dragging the department and University down. It looks like stupid is STILL driving the bus at 6 and Liv.! I'm more concerned about the apparent lack of diversity of ideas contained in the lists of usual suspects leaked to or speculated by Tony Paul. They're all just different versions of the same template. |
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 24, 2024 10:26:28 GMT -5
Michigan fired its coach 8 days after we parted ways with MD and hired his replacement before we even get to final interviews with the usual suspects. I know, "Trust the process." Yet some on here defend Vowels and Taylor and seem to think we have something special there. They are just a couple of dead weights dragging the department and University down. It looks like stupid is STILL driving the bus at 6 and Liv.! I don't think I've seen a post defending Vowels on this forum in years. |
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Post by titansforever on Mar 24, 2024 11:38:09 GMT -5
Michigan fired its coach 8 days after we parted ways with MD and hired his replacement before we even get to final interviews with the usual suspects. I know, "Trust the process." I suspect Michigan knew immediately who their man was once they decided to fire Howard, and May immediately accepted when he was asked and just had to wait until FAU lost. Makes the process much easier. They didn't have to wait to see who was interested, and they probably knew there was no way he was turning them down. In this instance, a Michigan coaching search and a UDM coaching search are not apples-to-apples. |
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Post by udballer on Mar 24, 2024 12:03:25 GMT -5
Michigan fired its coach 8 days after we parted ways with MD and hired his replacement before we even get to final interviews with the usual suspects. I know, "Trust the process." I suspect Michigan knew immediately who their man was once they decided to fire Howard, and May immediately accepted when he was asked and just had to wait until FAU lost. Makes the process much easier. They didn't have to wait to see who was interested, and they probably knew there was no way he was turning them down. In this instance, a Michigan coaching search and a UDM coaching search are not apples-to-apples. They are apples to apples if we knew who we wanted going in. Apparently, we did not. That either represents us not knowing who we want, or us not running the play as well as Michigan. For example, IF we wanted the Grambling coach... we should have heard something by now. Maybe we've already ran the same play as UofM and been turned down 6 times? It's a complete guess at this point. |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 24, 2024 13:42:22 GMT -5
I suspect Michigan knew immediately who their man was once they decided to fire Howard, and May immediately accepted when he was asked and just had to wait until FAU lost. Makes the process much easier. They didn't have to wait to see who was interested, and they probably knew there was no way he was turning them down. In this instance, a Michigan coaching search and a UDM coaching search are not apples-to-apples. They are apples to apples if we knew who we wanted going in. Apparently, we did not. That either represents us not knowing who we want, or us not running the play as well as Michigan. For example, IF we wanted the Grambling coach... we should have heard something by now. Maybe we've already ran the same play as UofM and been turned down 6 times? It's a complete guess at this point. Just a lot more of the same crap we have been getting for the last 9 - 10 years. Everything remains the same. We aren’t doing our job but could you please send us some more $? |
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Post by calihanmole on Mar 24, 2024 13:43:07 GMT -5
Everyone talking bout who will coach
But we gotta think bigger with a new approach
We need to address the real controversy
Our biggest problem - the word “Mercy”
We need a new name,
New logo, new brand
Till we do that we gotz our heads in the sand
Red and White jerseys
An olde English d
Lower case retro
It ain’t just me
If UDM has any continuance
Then the boomers here don’t got no influence
That’s it for now
The truth been told
Y’all better know
Y’all been Moled
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Post by dtowntitan on Mar 24, 2024 18:35:06 GMT -5
First, to see the discussion here about us possibly wanting to hire the Grambling coach is blasphemy to me. There is zero reason why that discussion should be or have ever been on the table. Second, UM hiring somebody and UDM hiring somebody is not an apples to apples comparison. Outside of maybe 10 coaches in the country, anybody who UM were to offer would be an upgrade in both facilities and pay. We do not have that luxury. We can identify a hundred candidates that would not even pick up a call from UDM about coaching here because either the job is a step down, the facilities are a step down, or the pay is a step down. It is not the same situation at all.
I do agree with the conversation about not hiring another retread coach or candidate. They need to hire someone who still has the passion, the fire to make change in athletics and with this team, the energy to do so. Every single one of us on this board could have coached this team to 1 win this year. Nobody that we hire will put us in a worse position than we currently are.
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Post by udballer on Mar 24, 2024 21:03:27 GMT -5
I haven't seen a single suggestion on this board (or rumored in general) of our coaching search including Buzz Williams or Hubert Davis. The candidates on our list, as least as much as we know of it, would be taking a huge step up to take this job. That is no different than the Michigan search... only with a different candidate pool.
Nobody is suggesting the candidate pool be the same... simply that the execution of the process be comparable.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 24, 2024 21:22:11 GMT -5
I haven't seen a single suggestion on this board (or rumored in general) of our coaching search including Buzz Williams or Hubert Davis. The candidates on our list, as least as much as we know of it, would be taking a huge step up to take this job. That is no different than the Michigan search... only with a different candidate pool. Nobody is suggesting the candidate pool be the same... simply that the execution of the process be comparable. One thing I have noticed here is we seem to have a lot more people defending why we can’t rather than why we can! |
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 25, 2024 5:07:21 GMT -5
I haven't seen a single suggestion on this board (or rumored in general) of our coaching search including Buzz Williams or Hubert Davis. The candidates on our list, as least as much as we know of it, would be taking a huge step up to take this job. That is no different than the Michigan search... only with a different candidate pool. Nobody is suggesting the candidate pool be the same... simply that the execution of the process be comparable. One thing I have noticed here is we seem to have a lot more people defending why we can’t rather than why we can! Of the candidates rumored in Tony Paul columns and X posts, Mark Montgomery was still coaching this past weekend. DeAndre Haynes will still be coaching next weekend when Marquette plays NC State. Obviously, our search and UM's search are not apples to apples. UM can offer a salary pool greater than our entire basketball budget. On the other hand, we had an 8 day head start. None of our publicly rumored candidates will help the AD win the press conference like May has done at UM. |
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 25, 2024 7:02:26 GMT -5
Andy Bronkema he is still coaching.
Got another team again making a run twice in the time UDM made a dumpster runs.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Mar 25, 2024 7:06:59 GMT -5
Tony Paul: As Detroit Mercy closes in on next coach, a lot has to change for this to work www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2024/03/24/paul-as-detroit-mercy-closes-in-on-next-coach-a-lot-has-to-change-for-this-to-work/73060155007/Behind a paywall, confirms that Mann and Washington are candidates, doesn't mention others. A paragraph of analysis on what we should be looking for in a coach from the article: "Detroit Mercy needs a coach who can come in and be laser-focused on recruiting, and rather than whine about they don't have — if it ain't rough it ain't right, right? — sell what they do, which is a footprint, albeit ever-shrinking, in a major city, and a whole lot of tradition. Detroit Mercy's a proud basketball school, with a whole bunch of banners in those Calihan Hall rafters, and a court named after Dick Vitale. Detroit Mercy, frankly, needs another Kate Achter, a young, hungry coach who focused on recruiting, recruiting, recruiting in taking over a team that had won 11 games in five seasons before she arrived. In her second season, her team just won 17 games, and she landed a long, fat extension." And some truth about our deteriorating fan base: "But what Oakland has, that Detroit doesn't, is an avid fan base, and a passionate community at large, built by 40 years of Greg Kampe — and now, by the way, it has a major NCAA Tournament win. Detroit Mercy has lost the community; it can't even get the students to come watch for free. On Davis' Senior Night last spring, when the school retired No. 0, the crowd should've been full; it was pathetic. Isaiah Jones transferred from Detroit Mercy to Oakland after seeing the wild crowd at the O'Rena late last season. He never saw that at Detroit Mercy." |
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 25, 2024 7:22:17 GMT -5
Tony Paul: As Detroit Mercy closes in on next coach, a lot has to change for this to work www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2024/03/24/paul-as-detroit-mercy-closes-in-on-next-coach-a-lot-has-to-change-for-this-to-work/73060155007/Behind a paywall, confirms that Mann and Washington are candidates, doesn't mention others. A paragraph of analysis on what we should be looking for from the article: "Detroit Mercy needs a coach who can come in and be laser-focused on recruiting, and rather than whine about they don't have — if it ain't rough it ain't right, right? — sell what they do, which is a footprint, albeit ever-shrinking, in a major city, and a whole lot of tradition. Detroit Mercy's a proud basketball school, with a whole bunch of banners in those Calihan Hall rafters, and a court named after Dick Vitale. Detroit Mercy, frankly, needs another Kate Achter, a young, hungry coach who focused on recruiting, recruiting, recruiting in taking over a team that had won 11 games in five seasons before she arrived. In her second season, her team just won 17 games, and she landed a long, fat extension." And some truth about our deteriorating fan base: "But what Oakland has, that Detroit doesn't, is an avid fan base, and a passionate community at large, built by 40 years of Greg Kampe — and now, by the way, it has a major NCAA Tournament win. Detroit Mercy has lost the community; it can't even get the students to come watch for free. On Davis' Senior Night last spring, when the school retired No. 0, the crowd should've been full; it was pathetic. Isaiah Jones transferred from Detroit Mercy to Oakland after seeing the wild crowd at the O'Rena late last season. He never saw that at Detroit Mercy." Didn't tony Paul use Calihanmole as a source one time? Also why does tony Paul always put something about OU in the article that is suppose to be about UDM finding a coach. Does OU have any input on this process? Just another way to put OU propaganda into an article that has nothing to do with OU. |
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Post by Rogobob77 on Mar 25, 2024 7:34:34 GMT -5
Tony Paul: As Detroit Mercy closes in on next coach, a lot has to change for this to work www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2024/03/24/paul-as-detroit-mercy-closes-in-on-next-coach-a-lot-has-to-change-for-this-to-work/73060155007/Behind a paywall, confirms that Mann and Washington are candidates, doesn't mention others. A paragraph of analysis on what we should be looking for from the article: "Detroit Mercy needs a coach who can come in and be laser-focused on recruiting, and rather than whine about they don't have — if it ain't rough it ain't right, right? — sell what they do, which is a footprint, albeit ever-shrinking, in a major city, and a whole lot of tradition. Detroit Mercy's a proud basketball school, with a whole bunch of banners in those Calihan Hall rafters, and a court named after Dick Vitale. Detroit Mercy, frankly, needs another Kate Achter, a young, hungry coach who focused on recruiting, recruiting, recruiting in taking over a team that had won 11 games in five seasons before she arrived. In her second season, her team just won 17 games, and she landed a long, fat extension." And some truth about our deteriorating fan base: "But what Oakland has, that Detroit doesn't, is an avid fan base, and a passionate community at large, built by 40 years of Greg Kampe — and now, by the way, it has a major NCAA Tournament win. Detroit Mercy has lost the community; it can't even get the students to come watch for free. On Davis' Senior Night last spring, when the school retired No. 0, the crowd should've been full; it was pathetic. Isaiah Jones transferred from Detroit Mercy to Oakland after seeing the wild crowd at the O'Rena late last season. He never saw that at Detroit Mercy." Didn't tony Paul use Calihanmole as a source one time? Also why does tony Paul always put something about OU in the article that is suppose to be about UDM finding a coach. Does OU have any input on this process? Just another way to put OU propaganda into an article that has nothing to do with OU. The article also mentions that Mann and Washington both come from the Kampe coaching tree. Coupled with Oakland's current success in the same conference UDM resides in, the defection of Jones to Oakland, their comparative success in fan engagement, etc., to me it seems legitimate to reference OU in the article. |
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 25, 2024 7:41:15 GMT -5
Didn't tony Paul use Calihanmole as a source one time? Also why does tony Paul always put something about OU in the article that is suppose to be about UDM finding a coach. Does OU have any input on this process? Just another way to put OU propaganda into an article that has nothing to do with OU. The article mentions that Mann and Washington both come from the Kampe coaching tree. Coupled with Oakland's current success in the same conference UDM resides in, it seems legitimate to reference OU in the article. Talking about Kampe assistant coach fair but putting this quote in: "But what Oakland has, that Detroit doesn't, is an avid fan base, and a passionate community at large, built by 40 years of Greg Kampe — and now, by the way, it has a major NCAA Tournament win. Detroit Mercy has lost the community; it can't even get the students to come watch for free. On Davis' Senior Night last spring, when the school retired No. 0, the crowd should've been full; it was pathetic. Isaiah Jones transferred from Detroit Mercy to Oakland after seeing the wild crowd at the O'Rena late last season. He never saw that at Detroit Mercy." Doesn't seem like it really goings with the article unless you are taking shots. In the whole quote I get no add information on the coaching search. What do you see in this quote I am missing? |
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