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Post by JDetroitTitan on Feb 23, 2022 11:05:34 GMT -5
We have two games left and were can we go?
Best case scenario: If we win and the other teams above us that matter split this week we will be in third place. But it is very unlikely because we need RMU to win against NKU on the road. If this doesn't happen we would be in 4th place
Worst scenario:
we loss both games we end up in 7th place
If we split (other teams win games that look favorable for them no real upsets):
we end up in 6th place
What does this mean for the playoffs:
best case scenario:
We get a buy the first round and would have to play the winner the second highest team that won in the first round (possibly YSU at home) . If we ended up in 4th place we would have a by the first round and play OU at home
Worst scenario:
We play at home the first round against RMU and then if we win we would play most likely NKU away (this would be a repeat of last year)
If we split (other teams win games that look favorable for them no real upsets):
We play GB at home in the first round and if we win we would play WSU or OU depending on if OU won out and right WSU lose one game at home against YSU or RMU. So I would say WSU because they have easier opponents. OU and WSU have both home games and OU has to play CSU and PFU.
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Feb 23, 2022 11:18:55 GMT -5
I screwed up there is a way for us to be in second and that if PFW lose both of there games and OU splits. I guess there is a chance for me to route for OU to win a game We would play NKU at home or if their is one upset we would play MIL at home. P.S. OU and us win out they would be 2nd and we would be in third. That mean all the OU fans need to route for us against PFW at least because that is the only way they would get into second place. Also if OU would of rescheduled all there conference games and won they could be going for first .
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Post by Commissioner on Feb 23, 2022 11:30:07 GMT -5
We have two games left and were can we go? Best case scenario: If we win and the other teams above us that matter split this week we will be in third place. But it is very unlikely because we need RMU to win against NKU on the road. If this doesn't happen we would be in 4th place Worst scenario: we loss both games we end up in 7th place If we split (other teams win games that look favorable for them no real upsets):we end up in 6th place What does this mean for the playoffs:best case scenario:We get a buy the first round and would have to play the winner the second highest team that won in the first round (possibly YSU at home) . If we ended up in 4th place we would have a by the first round and play OU at home Worst scenario:
We play at home the first round against RMU and then if we win we would play most likely NKU away (this would be a repeat of last year) If we split (other teams win games that look favorable for them no real upsets):
We play GB at home in the first round and if we win we would play WSU or OU depending on if OU won out and right WSU lose one game at home against YSU or RMU. So I would say WSU because they have easier opponents. OU and WSU have both home games and OU has to play CSU and PFU. A Commish-like post, JDT! I would like to grab that first round bye, not so much for the bye itself, but to be able to play the quarterfinal game at home. I'm not much concerned about winning a first round game at Calihan against IUPUI, Green Bay, Robt. Morris, or slight possibility of Milwaukee (even though GB beat us already). In fact, sometimes it's better not to have the long layoff. The other reason I want that bye is because it means we're winning this weekend. Mainly, at this point I just want to see us put W's on the board.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Feb 23, 2022 11:34:04 GMT -5
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Post by Commissioner on Feb 23, 2022 14:05:29 GMT -5
We have two games left and were can we go? Best case scenario: If we win and the other teams above us that matter split this week we will be in third place. But it is very unlikely because we need RMU to win against NKU on the road. If this doesn't happen we would be in 4th place Worst scenario: we loss both games we end up in 7th place If we split (other teams win games that look favorable for them no real upsets):we end up in 6th place What does this mean for the playoffs:best case scenario:We get a buy the first round and would have to play the winner the second highest team that won in the first round (possibly YSU at home) . If we ended up in 4th place we would have a by the first round and play OU at home Worst scenario:
We play at home the first round against RMU and then if we win we would play most likely NKU away (this would be a repeat of last year) If we split (other teams win games that look favorable for them no real upsets):
We play GB at home in the first round and if we win we would play WSU or OU depending on if OU won out and right WSU lose one game at home against YSU or RMU. So I would say WSU because they have easier opponents. OU and WSU have both home games and OU has to play CSU and PFU. So, playing around a bit more... If we lose both, we finish 7th, and play the #10 seed--probably Robert Morris--at Calihan in a first round game, and if we win, play at the second, third, or 4th seed in the quarterfinal-probably #2. If we win both, we finish no lower than 5th. Here's the formula if you care: 1. We would be 11-6. 2. PFW (currently 13-6) could finish no better than 14-7 (because if we sweep, we will beat them). That would leave them ahead of us. And Oakland can finish no better than 13-6, which would leave them ahead of us. BUT... OU and PFW have to play each other, so either PFW will finish only 13-8, in which case our winning percentage will be better and we pass them; or Oakland will finish no better than 12-7, in which case our winning percentage is better. So if we sweep, we catch at least one of the two. 3. Youngstown State (currently 12-7) has to play Wright State. If YSU loses, the best they can finish is 13-8--behind us. If WSU (currently 13-7) loses, the best they can finish is 14-8. And that creates the great oddity--they'd be a half-game ahead of us, but behind us in winning percentage, .636 to our .647. And winning percentage controls. So if we win out, we catch at least one of these two. A 5th place finish leaves us hosting IUPUI or Green Bay in the first round, probably IUPUI. The even more difficult part is catching a third team to finish 4th. We can do that if we sweep, Oakland beats PFW, and Cleveland State beats Oakland. That would move us past Oakland, PFW, and the YSU/WSU loser. We can also do it if we sweep, YSU beats WSU, and then loses to NKU. I'm pretty sure that moving up higher than 4th requires Robert Morris to beat either WSU or NKU on the road, which seems unlikely. If we split, we finish between 5th and 7th. We could catch YSU and OU, but only if they lost both games this weekend. A 5th place finish leaves us hosting IUPUI or Green Bay in the 1st round; 6th place leaves us hosting IUPUI, Green Bay, or Robert Morris, most likely one of the latter two.
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Feb 24, 2022 7:50:07 GMT -5
Youngstown games will play a big part on how things will shake out for us if we win out.
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Post by Commissioner on Feb 24, 2022 9:25:05 GMT -5
Fun night for fans of HL teams; All 4 games that matter--CSU @ UD; PFW @ OU; YSU @ WSU; and RMU @ NKU -- start at 7:00 EST. It'll be kind of like the old days of the NCAA tournament, before they started strategically timing the games, when ESPN would be flipping madly from one game to another.
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Post by Commissioner on Feb 24, 2022 19:56:38 GMT -5
Halftime scores: PFW 40, OU 31. WSU 44, YSU 33. NKU 46, RMU 31.
These are not the results we need to get a first round bye. If they hold--and we close out CSU--we would need Robt. Morris to beat WSU on Saturday to get a bye.
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Post by titantarheel on Feb 24, 2022 21:00:13 GMT -5
Alright, someone smarter than me break it down where things are at after tonight’s action…
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Post by Commissioner on Feb 24, 2022 21:03:54 GMT -5
A super win by the Titans tonight.
If we win Saturday, we'll clinch at least a #5 seed. Unfortunately, it will be tough to get to #4--need Robert Morris to beat WSU on the road to get it.
Current seeding: 1. Cleveland State 2. PFW 3. NKU 4. WSU 5. Detroit 6. Oakland 7. YSU 8. UIC 9. Milwaukee 10. Robt. Morris 11. Green Bay 12. IUPUI
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Post by rc on Feb 24, 2022 21:09:25 GMT -5
While Saturday’s win is not a guarantee by any stretch, not playing those 3 - 4 winnable games at home earlier in the year is a killer this year.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Feb 24, 2022 21:42:10 GMT -5
5th place gets you a home game against IUPUI, no win is guaranteed but that’s the team you would like to play.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Feb 25, 2022 0:12:49 GMT -5
With their losses today, Oakland and Youngstown State will be hosting an #HLMBB tourney first-round game on 3/1. Detroit Mercy can still get a first-round bye with a win against Purdue Fort Wayne a Wright State loss (host to RMU). The Titans play at 1:00 pm, the WSU game tips at 7:00 pm.
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Post by Commissioner on Feb 25, 2022 7:42:05 GMT -5
With their losses today, Oakland and Youngstown State will be hosting an #HLMBB tourney first-round game on 3/1. Detroit Mercy can still get a first-round bye with a win against Purdue Fort Wayne and either a Northern Kentucky loss (they host YSU) or Wright State loss (host to RMU). The Titans play at 1:00 pm, NKU and WSU games both tip at 7:00 pm. I think it has to be an WSU loss. An NKU loss leaves them 13-7 to our 11-6 (assuming we win). That's a .650 win percentage to what would be our .647.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Feb 25, 2022 7:46:13 GMT -5
With their losses today, Oakland and Youngstown State will be hosting an #HLMBB tourney first-round game on 3/1. Detroit Mercy can still get a first-round bye with a win against Purdue Fort Wayne and either a Northern Kentucky loss (they host YSU) or Wright State loss (host to RMU). The Titans play at 1:00 pm, NKU and WSU games both tip at 7:00 pm. I think it has to be an WSU loss. An NKU loss leaves them 13-7 to our 11-6 (assuming we win). That's a .650 win percentage to what would be our .647. Thanks for that correction.
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