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Post by Commissioner on Apr 22, 2022 13:49:48 GMT -5
Here is a list of players transferring TO Horizon League schools. An asterisk by the eligibility means the player has already transferred at least once and played without sitting a year, and so likely needs a waiver to be immediately eligible. Does not include Juco players
Cleveland State Tristan Enaruna, 6-8 SF, *2 yrs. eligibility - (4.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg for Iowa State).
Detroit Damezi Anderson, 6-7 F, 2 yrs. eligibility - (1.3 ppg for Loyola Jayden Stone, 6-4 G, 3 yrs. eligibility - (3.0 ppg for Grand Canyon)
Green Bay Brock Heffner, 6-8 F, 4 yrs. eligibility - (Redshirt at Hawaii) Ryan Wade, 6-2 G, 2 yrs. eligibility - (0.3 ppg at Central Michigan)
IUPUI Bryce Monroe, 5-11 G, *3 yrs. eligibility - (6.3 ppg, 34.5% 3Pt for San Diego) Chris Osten, 6-9 F, 1 yr. eligibility - (1.6 ppg for Northern Illinois)
Milwaukee Keon Edwards, 6-7 F, 3 yrs. eligibility - (0.5 ppg for Nebraska) Jalen Johnson, 6-7 PF, 2 yrs. eligibility - (16.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg for Alabama A&M) Jordan Ratliffe, 6-0 G, 1 yr eligbility - (from D-2 UNC-Pembroke, played as freshman at VMI in 2018)
Northern Kentucky Xavier Rhodes, 6-1 G, 2 yrs. eligibility - (from D-2 Florida Southern
Oakland Lorne Bowman, 6-2 G, 3 yrs. eligibility - (3.0 ppg for Wisconsin). Rocket Watts, 6-2 G, 2 yrs. eligibility - (4.4 ppg for Mississipi State) Keaton Hervey, 6-7 SF, 1 yr. eligibility - (3.4 ppg for Missouri State).
Purdue-Fort Wayne Anthony Roberts, 6-4 G, 2 yrs. eligibility - (20.7 ppg, 8.4 rpg at D-2 St. Cloud State)
Robert Morris Trey James, 6-10 PF, 3 yrs. eligibility - (1.2 ppg for Iona) Josh Corbin, 6-3 G, 3 yrs. eligibility - (4.7 ppg for Winthrop) Chris Ford, 6-5 G, 3 yrs. eligibility - (1.5 ppg for Davidson) Kevin Martina, 6-7 F, 3 yrs. eligibility - (1.5 ppg for Sam Houston State
Wright State Amari Davis, 6-3 G, *2 yrs. eligibility - (9.0 ppg for Missouri; 2d team all-HL in 2021 for Green Bay) Blake Sisley, 6-8 F, 3 yrs. eligibility - (6.0 ppg, 38.9% 3ptfg for Evansville.)
Youngstown State Adrian Nelson, 607 F, 1 yr eligility - (6.7 ppg, 7.4 rpg for Northern Kentucky) Malek Green, 6-7 F, 1 yr eligibility - (10.9 ppg, 4.4 rpg for Canisius) Bryce McBride, 6-0 G, 1 yr eligibility - (11.6 ppg for Eastern Michigan) Brandon Rush, 6-2 G, 2 yrs. eligibility - (14.2 ppg for Farleigh Dickinson) Mattia Acunzo, 6-8 F, *3-4 yrs. eligibility - (2.3 ppg in 3 games for Robt Morris; 5.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg for Toledo in 2021)
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Post by udballer on Apr 22, 2022 16:50:06 GMT -5
Another fantastic get for Kampe in Bowman. I didn't think he'd be a world beater at Wisconsin, but he'll make serious noise in the Horizon.
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Post by ptctitan on Apr 28, 2022 13:22:06 GMT -5
Wright State gets Amari Davis. Apparently, he decided he preferred to play for Scott Nagy than Dennis Gates.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Apr 28, 2022 14:20:04 GMT -5
Wright State gets Amari Davis. Apparently, he decided he preferred to play for Scott Nagy than Dennis Gates. I think he is every bit as good as Holden so this signing helps WS get back some of what they lost.
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Post by joseph75 on Apr 28, 2022 17:37:45 GMT -5
Commissioner update to IUPUI Bryce Moore coming in from San Diego
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 28, 2022 20:07:06 GMT -5
Wright State gets Amari Davis. Apparently, he decided he preferred to play for Scott Nagy than Dennis Gates. More likely realized he struggled at the SEC level and saw how crowded that backcourt was going to be. Went back to the level where he had success. I actually think Gates, winner of two coach of the year awards and two time league champ in the past three years, is going to be a point in the positive column for players considering the Tigers.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 18:29:08 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on May 28, 2022 21:17:38 GMT -5
We have willingly given up our former position as THE D1 program in Detroit. A kid from Old Redford High School transfers to a school in Oakland County and proclaims he is "coming home". ๐ I wonder if we even went after him.
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Post by rbj on May 29, 2022 3:47:14 GMT -5
We have willingly given up our former position as THE D1 program in Detroit. A kid from Old Redford High School transfers to a school in Oakland County and proclaims he is "coming home". ๐ I wonder if we even went after him. I know AD sent out a tweet about Watts, my gut/instincts tells me that the UDM coaching staff probably contacted Watts...but they didnt put in much effort towards recruiting him. Its almost over, we only have about 11 months left to deal with this ineptitude.
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Post by ptctitan on May 29, 2022 6:04:18 GMT -5
I know AD sent out a tweet about Watts, my gut/instincts tells me that the UDM coaching staff probably contacted Watts...but they didnt put in much effort towards recruiting him. Its almost over, we only have about 11 months left to deal with this ineptitude. In this case, your gut instincts are wrong. This is my observation based upon my experience dealing with this university as a "booster" since 1980. Nothing has changed in over 40 years. The operation of the university is controlled by the bean counters who gained control near the end of the Vitale-Gaines era. Four decades of that management style have caused our assets (most notably athletics and student housing) to deteriorate because funds for normal capital maintenance and improvements have been diverted into operations. This style of management has led to many questionable hires that have compounded the problems caused by bean counter management. Too many employees have been here so long that a defeatist and parochial power base inertia has exacerbated the problems. There is no sense of urgency except on the coaching staffs of the various sports. There is no sense of urgency in the university's central administration. This leads to the wrong order of priorities as exemplified by the decision to make the central administrators more comfortable by moving them to the student union before the new dorms are built along Livernois on the parking lot across from the soon-to-be-demolished Reno Hall. Yes, the health and safety of our students and fans are our first priority. In men's basketball as in all the other sports, we are past the point where a magic coach alone like Perry Watson can make us a perennial contender. Bean counter management led to the crisis of 2012 that fatally hurt everything that Ray had accomplished - at the point of his greatest triumph in March 2012, the foundations of his program were already rotten from 2 or more years of corruption led by that woman AD who was hired via bean counter management a few years earlier. Ray never recovered from that stab in the back. And it started another cascade of highly questionable decisions that have been debated on this board almost from their outset. Even lowly St. Peters was able to build and open a new arena before they made their Cinderella run. You want to be a competitive destination for good recruits from anywhere (even locally)? Then, we have to offer housing, nutrition, and sports medicine that say to recruits that we care about you. That's the way it is in 2022 when the recruiting process is as much dominated by the AAU teams and the transfer portal as it was dominated by high schools "back in the day." We have to hire competent motivated people in Athletics who know customer service and how to market so that fans of basketball have a reason to watch us play. The university no longer graduates enough students each year to keep Calihan Hall filled. We have to offer some home games in November when fan interest to see the team is highest. We have to embrace our heritage in sports as "Detroit" because "Mercy" was never interested in our sports program from the very outset of the merger when so many overtures were made to get the "Mercy people" involved and part of the program. Rashad Phillips, Willie Green and the core of the successful Perry Watson teams have been gone about 20 years - some a little less, others a little more. Vitale and Gaines left over 40 years ago. Calihan Hall was opened 68 years ago. The shadows of our great times are flickering more and more each day. So, at Mass this morning, I will pray that the Chairman of the Trustees and President Taylor can begin to implement the basic changes needed at this university and that they will have the fortitude to overcome the paralyzing inertia of the current bureaucracies who will fight to keep their power, influence and phony baloney jobs. Time is of the essence.
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Post by rbj on May 29, 2022 9:04:36 GMT -5
I know AD sent out a tweet about Watts, my gut/instincts tells me that the UDM coaching staff probably contacted Watts...but they didnt put in much effort towards recruiting him. Its almost over, we only have about 11 months left to deal with this ineptitude. In this case, your gut instincts are wrong. This is my observation based upon my experience dealing with this university as a "booster" since 1980. Nothing has changed in over 40 years. The operation of the university is controlled by the bean counters who gained control near the end of the Vitale-Gaines era. Four decades of that management style have caused our assets (most notably athletics and student housing) to deteriorate because funds for normal capital maintenance and improvements have been diverted into operations. This style of management has led to many questionable hires that have compounded the problems caused by bean counter management. Too many employees have been here so long that a defeatist and parochial power base inertia has exacerbated the problems. There is no sense of urgency except on the coaching staffs of the various sports. There is no sense of urgency in the university's central administration. This leads to the wrong order of priorities as exemplified by the decision to make the central administrators more comfortable by moving them to the student union before the new dorms are built along Livernois on the parking lot across from the soon-to-be-demolished Reno Hall. Yes, the health and safety of our students and fans are our first priority. In men's basketball as in all the other sports, we are past the point where a magic coach alone like Perry Watson can make us a perennial contender. Bean counter management led to the crisis of 2012 that fatally hurt everything that Ray had accomplished - at the point of his greatest triumph in March 2012, the foundations of his program were already rotten from 2 or more years of corruption led by that woman AD who was hired via bean counter management a few years earlier. Ray never recovered from that stab in the back. And it started another cascade of highly questionable decisions that have been debated on this board almost from their outset. Even lowly St. Peters was able to build and open a new arena before they made their Cinderella run. You want to be a competitive destination for good recruits from anywhere (even locally)? Then, we have to offer housing, nutrition, and sports medicine that say to recruits that we care about you. That's the way it is in 2022 when the recruiting process is as much dominated by the AAU teams and the transfer portal as it was dominated by high schools "back in the day." We have to hire competent motivated people in Athletics who know customer service and how to market so that fans of basketball have a reason to watch us play. The university no longer graduates enough students each year to keep Calihan Hall filled. We have to offer some home games in November when fan interest to see the team is highest. We have to embrace our heritage in sports as "Detroit" because "Mercy" was never interested in our sports program from the very outset of the merger when so many overtures were made to get the "Mercy people" involved and part of the program. Rashad Phillips, Willie Green and the core of the successful Perry Watson teams have been gone about 20 years - some a little less, others a little more. Vitale and Gaines left over 40 years ago. Calihan Hall was opened 68 years ago. The shadows of our great times are flickering more and more each day. So, at Mass this morning, I will pray that the Chairman of the Trustees and President Taylor can begin to implement the basic changes needed at this university and that they will have the fortitude to overcome the paralyzing inertia of the current bureaucracies who will fight to keep their power, influence and phony baloney jobs. Time is of the essence. What am I wrong about? Do you truly believe Mike Davis will be our coach in 2024? Did the coaching staff contact/recruit Rocket Watts? Can you answer those two questions? By the way, that is a good post regarding the bureaucracy at UDM.
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Post by ptctitan on May 29, 2022 9:21:54 GMT -5
The coaches were in frequent contact with Watts for over a month. He visited us. He worked out. We were in the mix. In the end, he chose a campus that has a more big school feel to it. My reply has nothing to do with who is the head coach. Do you want things to improve here? I am telling you what we need to do in order to compete for recruits more effectively. We need facilities and fans in the stands.
Davis has been able to get the team back to where Ray had the team in his last 3 years here. You want a better record than that? I'm telling you what the coaches have said repeatedly they need to improve their competitiveness in the recruiting wars. Housing, nutrition, sports medicine. And then fans in the stands. It's that basic. It requires viewing Athletics as an asset rather than a high school extracurricular. It requires professional management in Athletics. If the university made its own financial capital commitment equal to about 15% of the cost of building student union and acquiring the Novi campus, these problems could be solved. And the announcement of such a commitment would likely drive more donations to Athletics.
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Post by upbasketballfan on May 29, 2022 10:10:53 GMT -5
What can we do to wrestle the decision making control away from the bean counters? They will not add to anything just squeeze it until there is nothing left.
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Post by fan on May 29, 2022 10:30:01 GMT -5
PT nailed it, somethings get beyond fixing, in happens in the business world all the time, go back to whatever the Dow 500 was in 1930, there is probably about 10 percent of companies on that list still in business, No RCA, no NY Central, no Pachard, no Railway Express, soon no Sears, and so on. Forty years ago Loyola of New Orleans dropped all sport, and the school endured, so there is a footprint. We here hope for a St Louis or even a St Peters rebirth, it may not be in the cards. Some here talk about a D2 or D3 program, but the direction may be Loyola of NO.
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Post by fan on May 29, 2022 10:30:42 GMT -5
PT nailed it, somethings get beyond fixing, in happens in the business world all the time, go back to whatever the Dow 500 was in 1930, there is probably about 10 percent of companies on that list still in business, No RCA, no NY Central, no Pachard, no Railway Express, soon no Sears, and so on. Forty years ago Loyola of New Orleans dropped all sports, and the school endured, so there is a footprint. We here hope for a St Louis or even a St Peters rebirth, it may not be in the cards. Some here talk about a D2 or D3 program, but the direction may be Loyola of NO.
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