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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 28, 2021 9:00:18 GMT -5
NIT Champ and the rest of the Elite Eight will be determined today.
Memphis vs Mississippi State 12:00 Noon ESPN Tigers vs Bulldogs for the NIT championship. Memphis hoped to be playing in the NCAA tournament. Miss State had already considered this a rebuilding year. This is the first NIT final to be played somewhere other than New York.
Louisiana Tech vs Colorado State 3:00 PM ESPN I don't mind a consolation game. I remember when they were standard.
Creighton vs Gonzaga 2:10 PM CBS Can anyone stop Mark Few's crew?
Florida State vs Michigan 5:00 PM CBS Veteran gunfighter Leonard Hamilton faces off with young gunslinger Juwan Howard.
UCLA vs Alabama 7:15 PM TBS Basketball royalty vs football royalty.
Oregon vs USC 9:45 PM TBS Is this the "real" PAC 12 championship?
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Post by rc on Mar 28, 2021 11:35:40 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 28, 2021 11:51:32 GMT -5
I don't remember that killing from when it happened, but I read about it years later. Crazy story.
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Post by fan on Mar 28, 2021 12:26:47 GMT -5
Can't believe t's been 40 years, I was a vender at the time to Joshua Doore. They had grown to a large chain, simular to the old Wickes Furniture, with 5 big warehouse locations. Flint, Warren, Livonia, Down River and Grand Rapids. The rumor at the time of the killing was that the money came from Meyer Lansky and his bank in Toronto. The deal was set between Leach and Lansky at a West Bloomfield Golf Course. Again the rumor was Leach tired of paying high interest (juice) and stopped paying it and started to brag about it. His friend and partner Spencer Rubin is in the attached ad, driving the fork lift. Rubin went on to Gorman's Furniture and later died in a car crash in Western Michigan.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 29, 2021 1:45:40 GMT -5
Palm Sunday, March 29
Michigan 76, Florida State 58. The Wolverines defense and rebounding was really good.
Gonzaga 83, Creighton 65. The 30-year rise of the Zags to become what is perhaps now the dominant program in college basketball is a really an amazing tale of foresight, planning, performance, and good luck. The Zags really do look unstoppable, although, that said, Baylor is awfully good and would appear to match up well, and I think Michigan can take them, too. But it's hard for me to see USC taking them in the regional final.
UCLA 88, Alabama 78 (OT). 'Bama's Alex Reese drilled a three at the buzzer to force the OT--his only points of the game. But it was all UCLA in OT. Exciting game.
USC 82, Oregon 68. In this tournament, it takes the PAC 12 to beat the PAC 12. The conference is 12-2, including both sides of this game, and has 3 of the final 8 teams.
Memphis 77, Mississippi State 64. In the first NIT final played outside of Madison Square Garden, the Tigers won their second ever NIT championship (the other was in 2002, over South Carolina). The two squads were tied at the break, but Memphis steadily pulled away in the second half, eventually building the lead to 18 with just over a minute to play. The Tigers finish 20-8.
Louisiana Tech 76, Colorado State 74. I love that the NIT still plays a consolation or third-place game. Kenny Lofton had 27 points and 13 rebounds for the winners (24-8).
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 29, 2021 6:11:44 GMT -5
Can't believe t's been 40 years, I was a vender at the time to Joshua Doore. They had grown to a large chain, simular to the old Wickes Furniture, with 5 big warehouse locations. Flint, Warren, Livonia, Down River and Grand Rapids. The rumor at the time of the killing was that the money came from Meyer Lansky and his bank in Toronto. The deal was set between Leach and Lansky at a West Bloomfield Golf Course. Again the rumor was Leach tired of paying high interest (juice) and stopped paying it and started to brag about it. His friend and partner Spencer Rubin is in the attached ad, driving the fork lift. Rubin went on to Gorman's Furniture and later died in a car crash in Western Michigan. If I recall correctly, the actor in the crate at the beginning of the commercial is Dan Resin, an actor From South Bend IN, who played Dr. Beeper in Caddyshack.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 29, 2021 23:10:01 GMT -5
Monday, March 29
Houston 67, Oregon State 61. Houston never trailed, but Oregon State came back from 17 down to tie it with under 4 minutes to play. The Cougars, recovered, though, and went on to win. This will be Houston's 6th final four, but they've never won it all. No team has participated in more than 5 final fours without winning a national title.
Baylor 81, Arkansas 72. Leading by 4 midway through the second half, Baylor held Arkansas without a field goal for over 8 minutes to pull away. Macio Teague leads the Bears with 22, and Baylor heads to the Final Four for the first time since 1950.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 30, 2021 23:08:03 GMT -5
Tuesday, March 30
UCLA 51, Michigan 49. A game worth staying up for. Johnny Juzang dropped in 28 of UCLA's 51 points, and Michigan missed its last 8 shots from the floor. Notice how many games in this tournament have found the winner scoring only in the 50s or low 60s.
Gonzaga 85, USC 66. What is there to say? This is a great Gonzaga team.
Semis are Gonzaga v. UCLA, Baylor v. Houston.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 31, 2021 1:04:11 GMT -5
This game looked like the guys on Michigan were afraid to try and win, Very hesitant and afraid. It's the old free throws again. If you can't hit the freebies you can't win. I'm trying to remember the team that lost the other night by only shooting 11-25 from the line.
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Post by rc on Apr 1, 2021 7:34:08 GMT -5
I thought UCLA’s defense frustrated Michigan’s offense enough that it threw it off its game like we saw against Florida State and others. I also think that overall, Michigan played poorly and if these two teams played 10 times, Michigan would win 7 or 8 of those games.
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Post by fan on Apr 1, 2021 7:52:18 GMT -5
I think the UCLA game plan effected our offense enough the first half to control the score low enough where it took Michigan out of its game. Michigan adjusted at half time but so did UCLA, they assumed correctly Michigan would go to the paint and they did. The second half UCLA again held the score down. If the score got into the 60's Michigan wins. The UCLA kid got hot and stayed hot which really hurt Michigan, still Michigan could have won that game.
It was a real good college basketball game, where on any give night any college team can beat another one. Your right if they played again Michigan would beat the 8 or 9 out of 10.
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Post by udballer on Apr 1, 2021 17:43:47 GMT -5
It was a real good college basketball game, where on any give night any college team can beat another one. Your right if they played again Michigan would beat the 8 or 9 out of 10. Agree that Michigan would beat that team 8 out of 10. In fact, Michigan would have to play a terrible game to lose to that team at all... which leads to my second comment. Cannot agree with the comment that it was a "real good" game. In fact, it bordered on awful. Very tough to watch and felt like neither team wanted to win. If I saw that game without context, I'd have thought I was watching two teams that wouldn't make the NCAA Tourney. Hoping to see Baylor and Gonzaga square off for this year's title. That should be a good one.
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Post by fan on Apr 2, 2021 7:57:34 GMT -5
In college ball, sometimes "ugly" is the game plan, as said the neat thing about college basketball is at any given time any college team can beat another on, remember the Robert Morris/Ky game in the NIT a few years ago.
I thing UCLA knew what they had to do and they did it. They were good enough to play with Michigan, they were lucky, and they were in the right place at the right time.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 2, 2021 10:36:39 GMT -5
It was a real good college basketball game, where on any give night any college team can beat another one. Your right if they played again Michigan would beat the 8 or 9 out of 10. Agree that Michigan would beat that team 8 out of 10. In fact, Michigan would have to play a terrible game to lose to that team at all... which leads to my second comment. Cannot agree with the comment that it was a "real good" game. In fact, it bordered on awful. Very tough to watch and felt like neither team wanted to win. If I saw that game without context, I'd have thought I was watching two teams that wouldn't make the NCAA Tourney. Hoping to see Baylor and Gonzaga square off for this year's title. That should be a good one. I think it was a relatively exciting game because it was close, so I could see people saying it was a "good game". But it was not a well played game at all. UCLA scored four points in the first ten minutes of the game, and Michigan only scored 23 in the first half. We've actually seen a lot of low scoring games/halves this year in the tournament, even among those considered among the best teams in the tourney. Oregon State, Florida State, UCLA (twice), Loyola-Chicago, Nova, and 'Cuse, all put us halves of scoring 25 points or less. And we saw some terrible shooting games. I know they say when you are a hammer that every problem looks like a nail, and that may shape my opinion that the issue is lack of actual point guards who ensure a team is running their offense and getting high percentage shots as often as possible. Seems like we have a lot of "lead guards" now, who look to score first, second, and third and then kick it out to someone else with three seconds left on the shot clock. And the idea of posting up the big man to get a high percentage shot or draw a foul to break up a scoring drought seems to be a very infrequent occurrence these days. I still love the game, but it's different.
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Post by rc on Apr 2, 2021 13:58:06 GMT -5
I think the UCLA game plan effected our offense enough the first half to control the score low enough where it took Michigan out of its game. Michigan adjusted at half time but so did UCLA, they assumed correctly Michigan would go to the paint and they did. The second half UCLA again held the score down. If the score got into the 60's Michigan wins. The UCLA kid got hot and stayed hot which really hurt Michigan, still Michigan could have won that game. It was a real good college basketball game, where on any give night any college team can beat another one. Your right if they played again Michigan would beat the 8 or 9 out of 10. Have watched the Zags throttle USC just prior to the Michigan UCLA game, I felt like there is no way either of those teams could stay close with Gonzaga. The Gonzaga game was only “good” from a one-sided perspective, because they made USC look so bad! The number of turnovers by USC in the first 5 minutes was just ridiculous for a team in the Great 8. I also wouldn’t consider the Michigan game very good baseball, with so many missed shots by Michigan and no offensive flow to the game either.
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