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Post by Commissioner on Mar 10, 2024 12:20:20 GMT -5
PW was also in that age sweet spot of roughly 38-50 where the coach has gained enough on the job experience to have learned things by trial and error, but still young enough to bring energy to the job. That's not to say that candidates older and younger than that age range cannot succeed. Or that all candidates in that age range do succeed. But the odds favor solid success when you hire a coach in that age range. PW was simply a superior judge of talent and character. In regards to judging talent and charachter PW was one of the best. I personally know of 3 players who wanted to transfer to UDM...two of them from a BIG10 school and one from a school out west. They were all talent basketball players who were into some questionable street activities, coach Watson told them thanks but no thanks. I think if either of the three were titans they could've pushed those 2 NCAA tournament teams to the elite 8. Are you suggesting that PW should have taken those guys in? Or would you say they would have been disruptive to teams that were marked by grit, teamwork, and character?
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 10, 2024 12:20:49 GMT -5
Forgotten in all this is PW could flat out coach. That's the real criteria, for sure!
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Mar 10, 2024 12:32:26 GMT -5
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Post by udballer on Mar 10, 2024 12:32:26 GMT -5
Being that I enrolled at UDM within a couple years of Perry's arrival, I can assure you that I didnt "think he came directly from high school". Funny, then, that when someone said we wouldn't likely hire Thomas right of the HS ranks, you suggested it's a good thing we didn't think like that when we hired PW. Exactly---but I also doubt he would have been a candidate without the stint at Michigan (see also Will Robinson, 1969). That's fine. I don't know why you insist, though, on making inaccurate comparisons. That explains a lot. It wasn't voicing the opinion, it was suggesting as fact things that weren't accurate. I'm not really arguing with your opinion. Just stating as fact that PW wasn't hired out of HS coaching, and that Hyperion was probably right when he said he saw no chance that we'd hire someone straight out of HS. OK, thank you. We can end the silliness. Thank goodness. I thought you were going to threaten to ban me from the board again. 🙂
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Post by titansforever on Mar 10, 2024 14:04:05 GMT -5
Any thoughts on Dane Fife? He's 44, did a decent job at Fort Wayne, from the Detroit area so he knows the lay of the land. Has not coached since leaving a mismatched assistantship at Indiana following the 2023 season.
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Mar 10, 2024 17:19:23 GMT -5
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 10, 2024 17:19:23 GMT -5
Any thoughts on Dane Fife? He's 44, did a decent job at Fort Wayne, from the Detroit area so he knows the lay of the land. Has not coached since leaving a mismatched assistantship at Indiana following the 2023 season. I was thinking about Fife yesterday but he seems to be another guy going in the wrong direction. Head Coach assistant and now out of the game. We need a guy who is all in and I think not even being in the game is a long way from all in!
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Post by rbj on Mar 10, 2024 17:34:12 GMT -5
In regards to judging talent and charachter PW was one of the best. I personally know of 3 players who wanted to transfer to UDM...two of them from a BIG10 school and one from a school out west. They were all talent basketball players who were into some questionable street activities, coach Watson told them thanks but no thanks. I think if either of the three were titans they could've pushed those 2 NCAA tournament teams to the elite 8. Are you suggesting that PW should have taken those guys in? Or would you say they would have been disruptive to teams that were marked by grit, teamwork, and character? No, he did the right thing by not accepting them. Two were heavy into the streets, one had a learning disability, although he was able to enroll and stay eligible at the University he attended. I think all would've been distractions.
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 11, 2024 6:42:35 GMT -5
Captain Obvious writes a column behind the paywall but from its regurgitation of our message board, tweets, and maybe one candidate not widely known, comes up with his list. All the names except Marlon Williamson have been mentioned on this board and he even lists Mike Thomas and OU's assistant Jones. Yaklich and Dane Fife are late arrivals to the speculation.
So, The Mole is in the driver's seat again, if he can recapture the poetic majesty of 2018.
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 11, 2024 8:47:23 GMT -5
Call up John Beilein and get him out of retirement. He will be the Top Dog and not have to play as second fiddler to a football program.
Pay the man and stop wasting money on rebranding.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Mar 11, 2024 9:21:30 GMT -5
Call up John Beilein and get him out of retirement. He will be the Top Dog and not have to play as second fiddler to a football program. Pay the man and stop wasting money on rebranding. Rebranding could actually be a cost-saver. Order jerseys with fewer sewn on letters, just "Detroit." FWIW, Beilein is 71.
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 11, 2024 9:58:04 GMT -5
Call up John Beilein and get him out of retirement. He will be the Top Dog and not have to play as second fiddler to a football program. Pay the man and stop wasting money on rebranding. Rebranding could actually be a cost-saver. Order jerseys with fewer sewn on letters, just "Detroit." FWIW, Beilein is 71. So he has about 5 more years maybe 7.
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 11, 2024 10:05:48 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed on the udm page Mike Davis was removed but Mike Davis jr was not. Is this going to be our coach next season? Are they going to announce that Jr. is the interim head coach for a year. detroittitans.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
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Post by Rogobob77 on Mar 11, 2024 10:09:12 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed on the udm page Mike Davis was removed but Mike Davis jr was not. Is this going to be our coach next season? Are they going to announce that Jr. is the interim head coach for a year. detroittitans.com/sports/mens-basketball/rosterI'm all for reading tea leaves but there is zero percent chance of that happening. That would be like hiring the surviving Assistant Captain of the Titanic to sail the Bob-Lo Boat.
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 11, 2024 10:12:11 GMT -5
Rogo Like I said before I have ZERO percent confidence in the next hire through this AD.
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Post by calihanmole on Mar 11, 2024 11:27:26 GMT -5
Tony Paul Ain’t worth a paywall His writing is small And he’s bad on the call
All the boomers in the lower bowl Get ready for truth from The Calihan Mole
We gotta go back to U Detroit UDM era been a bad exploit
Hassan our guy but he needs a new brand It’s something Taylor need to understand
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Post by titansforever on Mar 11, 2024 12:32:00 GMT -5
Call up John Beilein and get him out of retirement. He will be the Top Dog and not have to play as second fiddler to a football program. Pay the man and stop wasting money on rebranding. Canisius will be hiring, I'd expect Beilein would go there before us. But I don't think he's going anywhere. Unless he gets assured he can hire Pat, and that Pat would succeed him. Phil Martelli and his kid, at Bryant, is a similar combination.
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