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Post by Commissioner on May 9, 2024 15:28:46 GMT -5
Detroit
H Oct. 27 Wayne State (Exhibition)
H Nov. 04 Cleary (Non D1)
A Nov. 07 Loyola
H Nov. 10 Niagara
H Nov. 16 Toledo
A Nov. 20 Ball State
A Nov. 23 Wake Forest
N Nov. 26 Tulsa (Jacksonville Classic)
N Nov. 27 Rhode Island (Jacksonville Classic)
A Nov. 30 Eastern Michigan
A Dec. 14 Davidson
A Dec. 22 Wisconsin
Cleveland State
H Oct. 30 Lourdes (Exhibition)
A Nov. 04 Michigan
H Nov. 06 Baldwin Wallace (Non-D1)
A Nov. 09 Kansas State
A Nov. 12 Valparaiso
H Nov. 16 Eastern Michigan
A Nov. 19 Minnesota
H Nov. 23 Kent State
H Nov. 26 NJIT (CSU MTE)
H Nov. 29 Morehead State (CSU MTE)
H Dec. 14 Brescia (Non-D1)
H Dec. 22 Midway (Non D1)
Green Bay
H Oct. 24 St. Norbert (Exhibition)
A Nov. 04 Oklahoma State
H Nov. 08 St. Thomas
A Nov. 13 Western Illinois
A Nov. 16 Providence
H Nov. 19 SIU-Edwardsville
A Nov. 22 Evansville (Ohio State MTE)
A Nov. 25 Ohio State (Ohio State MTE)
H Nov. 30 Campbell (Ohio State MTE)
H Dec. 08 Michigan Tech (Non-D1)
H Dec. 14 UC-Santa Barbara
A Dec. 21 Drake
IU-Indy
H Nov. 04 Indiana-Columbus (Non D1)
A Nov. 08 Xavier
H Nov. 12 Goshen (Non D1)
H Nov. 15 Eastern Michigan
A Nov. 18 Iowa State
N Nov. 22 South Carolina State (Alabama A&M MTE)
N Nov. 23 Coastal Carolina (Alabama A&M MTE)
A Nov. 25 Alabama A&M (Alabama A&M MTE)
H Nov. 30 Trinity College (Non D1)
A Dec. 14 Lindenwood
A Dec. 21 Florida International
Milwaukee
H Nov. 04 Lakeland (Non D1)
A Nov. 07 Northern Iowa
A Nov. 13 Longwood
A Nov. 19 Duquesne
H Nov. 22 Portland State (UWM MTE)
H Nov. 23 Wofford (UWM MTE)
H Nov. 24 St. Thomas (UWM MTE)
A Nov. 27 Central Florida
A Nov. 30 Southern Mississippi
H Dec. 15 Akron (Played at Fiserv Forum)
H Dec. 22 North Central College (Non-D1)
Northern Kentucky
A Nov. 04 Florida State
A Nov. 08 Purdue
H Nov. 14 Nicholls (NKU MTE)
H Nov. 19 Cincinnati (NKU MTE)
H Nov. 23 Kentucky State (non-D1)
A Nov. 27 Charleston
H Nov. 30 Bellarmine
A Dec. 03 Akron
H Dec. 11 Cumberland (non-D1)
H Dec. 15 Norfolk State
H Dec. 21 South Carolina State
Oakland
N Oct. 20 Michigan (Exhibition)
H Oct. 25 Rochester Christian (Exhibition)
H Nov. 01 Defiance (non-D1)
A Nov. 06 Boise State
A Nov. 08 Illinois
A Nov. 16 Kansas
A Nov. 21 Eastern Michigan
A Nov. 30 Toledo
N Dec. 17 Michigan State
N Dec. 22 Loyola (Diamond Head Classic MTE)
N Dec. 23 Charleston/Oregon State (Diamond Head Classic MTE)
N Dec. 25 Charlotte/Hawaii/Murray St./Nebraska (Diamond Head Classic MTE)
A Dec. 30 Arkansas
Purdue Fort Wayne
H Nov. 04 Bluffton (Non-D1)
A Nov. 08 Central Florida
H Nov. 12 Bethune-Cookman
H Nov. 16 Southern Indiana
A Nov. 20 Penn State
N Nov. 25 Drexel (Sunshine Slam MTE, Daytona)
N Nov. 26 Radford/Chicago State (Sunshine Slam MTE, Daytona)
A Nov. 30 Texas A&M-Commerce
A Dec. 15 Eastern Michigan
H Dec. 20 Defiance (Non-D1)
A Dec. 22 Michigan
Robert Morris
A Nov. 04 West Virginia
A Nov. 07 Delaware
H Nov. 10 Chatham (Non-D1)
H Nov. 14 Stonehill (RMU MTE)
H Nov. 15 Lindenwood (RMU MTE)
H Nov. 17 New Orleans (RMU MTE)
A Nov. 21 Cornell
H Nov. 27 Canisius
A Nov. 30 Ohio U.
H Dec. 17 Towson
H Dec. 21 St. Francis
Wright State
H Oct. 26 Wilmington (Exhibition)
A Nov. 04 Kentucky
H Nov. 06 Ohio Christian (Non-D1)
A Nov. 09 Miami (OH)
A Nov. 13 Toledo
H Nov. 16 Central State (Non-D1)
N Nov. 21 Princeton (Myrtle Beach Invitational)
N Nov. 22 Bradley/Texas St. (Myrtle Beach Invitational)
N Nov. 24 Middle Tennessee St./Ohio U./Portland/South Florida (Myrtle Beach Invitational)
H Nov. 30 Air Force
H Dec. 11 Marshall
A Dec. 21 Eastern Michigan
Youngstown State
H Nov. 04 Westminster (Non D1)
A Nov. 09 Chicago State
A Nov. 11 Ohio State
A Nov. 16 Syracuse
N Nov. 21 Monmouth (Stephen F. Austin MTE)
N Nov. 22 Presbyterian (Stephen F. Austin MTE)
A Nov. 23 Stephen F. Austin (Stephen F. Austin MTE)
H Nov. 27 Western Michigan
H Nov. 30 Bethany (Non D1)
H Dec. 14 Toledo
A Dec. 21 South Carolina-Upstate
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Post by Commissioner on May 17, 2024 20:22:52 GMT -5
Some updates, including a what should be the league's best home game, Cincinnati at NKU, Nov. 13.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 4, 2024 20:11:00 GMT -5
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Post by Rogobob77 on Jun 5, 2024 13:53:28 GMT -5
Arkansas will host Oakland as part of its 24-25 non-conference schedule, per multiple sources. The date is set for Monday, December 30th inside Bud Walton Arena. Coach Calipari vs. Coach Kampe for the second time in less than 10 months.
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Post by Commissioner on Jun 12, 2024 14:53:32 GMT -5
Updates: IUPUI becomes the first HL team to release its full non-conference slate, and OU adds a loss at Kansas.
Re IUPUI's schedule: A home schedule including IU-Columbus, Goshen, and Trinity can't excite many fans. But EMU is a decent home game, and at least IUPUI will get some early season wins. They've also got an MTE in which they could go 3-0--the opponents are Coastal Carolina (9-22 last year), South Carolina State (14-18), and host Alabama A&M (12-23). A road game at Lindenwood (9-22) is winnable, too. They'll lose buy games at Iowa State, Xavier, and probably Florida International. Still, something like a 7-4 record or even 8-3 starting conference play seems possible.
I'm not saying that the Titans need to schedule *3* non-D1 opponents. But I think Detroit, like IUPUI, needs to schedule some wins, even if they're againsts cupcakes (which is pretty much what "scheduling wins" means). After years of losing, we need to get some Ws up on the board early in the year, even if they are cheap wins.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 20, 2024 21:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by larrytitan on Jun 21, 2024 7:44:12 GMT -5
Who is responsible for scheduling? HC or AD?
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Post by upbasketballfan on Jun 21, 2024 8:05:24 GMT -5
Updates: IUPUI becomes the first HL team to release its full non-conference slate, and OU adds a loss at Kansas. Re IUPUI's schedule: A home schedule including IU-Columbus, Goshen, and Trinity can't excite many fans. But EMU is a decent home game, and at least IUPUI will get some early season wins. They've also got an MTE in which they could go 3-0--the opponents are Coastal Carolina (9-22 last year), South Carolina State (14-18), and host Alabama A&M (12-23). A road game at Lindenwood (9-22) is winnable, too. They'll lose buy games at Iowa State, Xavier, and probably Florida International. Still, something like a 7-4 record or even 8-3 starting conference play seems possible. I'm not saying that the Titans need to schedule *3* non-D1 opponents. But I think Detroit, like IUPUI, needs to schedule some wins, even if they're againsts cupcakes (which is pretty much what "scheduling wins" means). After years of losing, we need to get some Ws up on the board early in the year, even if they are cheap wins. And if we schedule Goshen or Finlandia( even though they are closed) we pay them + their travel and we draw 100 + or - fans, will you drive 3 1/2 hrs. to watch that crap? Monty will learn nothing about his team and will be less prepared for his next real game! The best Coach I ever had once told me a game is a test to see if we understand what he has been teaching us and if we do then he will be able to take us to the next lesson and if we do not understand then we need to get back to practice and work some more on our present lesson. I know I will not drive 9 hrs. to watch what should be a gimme game! I feel the Loyola game might be a home and home or a 2v1. |
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Post by Commissioner on Jun 21, 2024 8:54:23 GMT -5
Updates: IUPUI becomes the first HL team to release its full non-conference slate, and OU adds a loss at Kansas. Re IUPUI's schedule: A home schedule including IU-Columbus, Goshen, and Trinity can't excite many fans. But EMU is a decent home game, and at least IUPUI will get some early season wins. They've also got an MTE in which they could go 3-0--the opponents are Coastal Carolina (9-22 last year), South Carolina State (14-18), and host Alabama A&M (12-23). A road game at Lindenwood (9-22) is winnable, too. They'll lose buy games at Iowa State, Xavier, and probably Florida International. Still, something like a 7-4 record or even 8-3 starting conference play seems possible. I'm not saying that the Titans need to schedule *3* non-D1 opponents. But I think Detroit, like IUPUI, needs to schedule some wins, even if they're againsts cupcakes (which is pretty much what "scheduling wins" means). After years of losing, we need to get some Ws up on the board early in the year, even if they are cheap wins. And if we schedule Goshen or Finlandia( even though they are closed) we pay them + their travel and we draw 100 + or - fans, will you drive 3 1/2 hrs. to watch that crap? Monty will learn nothing about his team and will be less prepared for his next real game! The best Coach I ever had once told me a game is a test to see if we understand what he has been teaching us and if we do then he will be able to take us to the next lesson and if we do not understand then we need to get back to practice and work some more on our present lesson. I know I will not drive 9 hrs. to watch what should be a gimme game! I feel the Loyola game might be a home and home or a 2v1. We need some Ws on the board. Building in losses on the road while overmatched doesn't teach you much either. Meanwhile, $5000 gets you a game with UM Dearborn. We need a team that starts 2-0 or 3-0. This is not my general preferred approach, but it is in our current situation. You need to break the culture of losing, even if it is by downing creampuffs. And FWIW, the financial return is not the specific game, but the added attendance and enthusiasm one might generate overall. The Titans have not started a season 2-0 since the fall of 2002. 2013 NIT Squad non-conference schedule included Rochester (NAIA), Northern Michigan (D-2), Alcorn State, and Alabama State. 2012 NCAA squad included Lake Erie (D-2), Concordia (NAIA), and Alabama State. 2002 NIT Squad included Alabama A&M and UMBC. 2001 NIT Squad included Wayne State (D2) and Chicago State. 1999 NCAA squad included Wayne State (D2), Grambling, Bethune-Cookman. 1998 NCAA squad included Wayne State (D2), Grambling, Bethune-Cookman. All these teams did OK. And don't get me started on Dick Vitale's scheduling, or going way back, Bob Calihan's (Dave DeBusschere's 1962 NCAA team, for example, scheduled Western Ontario, Assumption, Christian Brothers, Regis, and Hillsdale). Or look at some other low to mid-majors that made last year's NCAA tournament. Morehead State (14 seed) played Shawnee State, Midway, St. Mary of the Woods, and Alice Lloyd. Yale (13 seed) played Vassar and Colby-Sawyer. Those were just the 1st two teams I pulled up. I'm just not buying the notion that a couple of easy wins harms the team. I think--again, especially in our current circumstance--that they can be beneficial to the program. |
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Post by Rogobob77 on Jun 21, 2024 10:33:11 GMT -5
I heard from a good source the Loyola game is a buy game.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Jun 21, 2024 13:04:21 GMT -5
And if we schedule Goshen or Finlandia( even though they are closed) we pay them + their travel and we draw 100 + or - fans, will you drive 3 1/2 hrs. to watch that crap? Monty will learn nothing about his team and will be less prepared for his next real game! The best Coach I ever had once told me a game is a test to see if we understand what he has been teaching us and if we do then he will be able to take us to the next lesson and if we do not understand then we need to get back to practice and work some more on our present lesson. I know I will not drive 9 hrs. to watch what should be a gimme game! I feel the Loyola game might be a home and home or a 2v1. We need some Ws on the board. Building in losses on the road while overmatched doesn't teach you much either. Meanwhile, $5000 gets you a game with UM Dearborn. We need a team that starts 2-0 or 3-0. This is not my general preferred approach, but it is in our current situation. You need to break the culture of losing, even if it is by downing creampuffs. And FWIW, the financial return is not the specific game, but the added attendance and enthusiasm one might generate overall. The Titans have not started a season 2-0 since the fall of 2002. 2013 NIT Squad non-conference schedule included Rochester (NAIA), Northern Michigan (D-2), Alcorn State, and Alabama State. 2012 NCAA squad included Lake Erie (D-2), Concordia (NAIA), and Alabama State. 2002 NIT Squad included Alabama A&M and UMBC. 2001 NIT Squad included Wayne State (D2) and Chicago State. 1999 NCAA squad included Wayne State (D2), Grambling, Bethune-Cookman. 1998 NCAA squad included Wayne State (D2), Grambling, Bethune-Cookman. All these teams did OK. And don't get me started on Dick Vitale's scheduling, or going way back, Bob Calihan's (Dave DeBusschere's 1962 NCAA team, for example, scheduled Western Ontario, Assumption, Christian Brothers, Regis, and Hillsdale). Or look at some other low to mid-majors that made last year's NCAA tournament. Morehead State (14 seed) played Shawnee State, Midway, St. Mary of the Woods, and Alice Lloyd. Yale (13 seed) played Vassar and Colby-Sawyer. Those were just the 1st two teams I pulled up. I'm just not buying the notion that a couple of easy wins harms the team. I think--again, especially in our current circumstance--that they can be beneficial to the program. And I’m not buying the notion that a couple of easy wins benefit the program or put any more buts in the seats. Games like that in my option are a waste of time and $. Davis scheduled Wayne State and where did that help our program? It helped the Detroit schools and Wayne State but it hurt UD twofold! Like I said earlier, would you drive up for a nothing game? Let’s not assume others are stupid enough to waste their time on something that means nothing. A coach can’t even access his team. It’s a wasted opportunity to improve. I for one cherish an opportunity for our team to beat Loyola! |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Jun 21, 2024 13:04:33 GMT -5
And if we schedule Goshen or Finlandia( even though they are closed) we pay them + their travel and we draw 100 + or - fans, will you drive 3 1/2 hrs. to watch that crap? Monty will learn nothing about his team and will be less prepared for his next real game! The best Coach I ever had once told me a game is a test to see if we understand what he has been teaching us and if we do then he will be able to take us to the next lesson and if we do not understand then we need to get back to practice and work some more on our present lesson. I know I will not drive 9 hrs. to watch what should be a gimme game! I feel the Loyola game might be a home and home or a 2v1. We need some Ws on the board. Building in losses on the road while overmatched doesn't teach you much either. Meanwhile, $5000 gets you a game with UM Dearborn. We need a team that starts 2-0 or 3-0. This is not my general preferred approach, but it is in our current situation. You need to break the culture of losing, even if it is by downing creampuffs. And FWIW, the financial return is not the specific game, but the added attendance and enthusiasm one might generate overall. The Titans have not started a season 2-0 since the fall of 2002. 2013 NIT Squad non-conference schedule included Rochester (NAIA), Northern Michigan (D-2), Alcorn State, and Alabama State. 2012 NCAA squad included Lake Erie (D-2), Concordia (NAIA), and Alabama State. 2002 NIT Squad included Alabama A&M and UMBC. 2001 NIT Squad included Wayne State (D2) and Chicago State. 1999 NCAA squad included Wayne State (D2), Grambling, Bethune-Cookman. 1998 NCAA squad included Wayne State (D2), Grambling, Bethune-Cookman. All these teams did OK. And don't get me started on Dick Vitale's scheduling, or going way back, Bob Calihan's (Dave DeBusschere's 1962 NCAA team, for example, scheduled Western Ontario, Assumption, Christian Brothers, Regis, and Hillsdale). Or look at some other low to mid-majors that made last year's NCAA tournament. Morehead State (14 seed) played Shawnee State, Midway, St. Mary of the Woods, and Alice Lloyd. Yale (13 seed) played Vassar and Colby-Sawyer. Those were just the 1st two teams I pulled up. I'm just not buying the notion that a couple of easy wins harms the team. I think--again, especially in our current circumstance--that they can be beneficial to the program. And I’m not buying the notion that a couple of easy wins benefit the program or put any more buts in the seats. Games like that in my option are a waste of time and $. Davis scheduled Wayne State and where did that help our program? It helped the Detroit schools and Wayne State but it hurt UD twofold! Like I said earlier, would you drive up for a nothing game? Let’s not assume others are stupid enough to waste their time on something that means nothing. A coach can’t even access his team. It’s a wasted opportunity to improve. I for one cherish an opportunity for our team to beat Loyola! |
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Post by Commissioner on Jun 21, 2024 20:25:16 GMT -5
We need some Ws on the board. Building in losses on the road while overmatched doesn't teach you much either. Meanwhile, $5000 gets you a game with UM Dearborn. We need a team that starts 2-0 or 3-0. This is not my general preferred approach, but it is in our current situation. You need to break the culture of losing, even if it is by downing creampuffs. And FWIW, the financial return is not the specific game, but the added attendance and enthusiasm one might generate overall. The Titans have not started a season 2-0 since the fall of 2002. 2013 NIT Squad non-conference schedule included Rochester (NAIA), Northern Michigan (D-2), Alcorn State, and Alabama State. 2012 NCAA squad included Lake Erie (D-2), Concordia (NAIA), and Alabama State. 2002 NIT Squad included Alabama A&M and UMBC. 2001 NIT Squad included Wayne State (D2) and Chicago State. 1999 NCAA squad included Wayne State (D2), Grambling, Bethune-Cookman. 1998 NCAA squad included Wayne State (D2), Grambling, Bethune-Cookman. All these teams did OK. And don't get me started on Dick Vitale's scheduling, or going way back, Bob Calihan's (Dave DeBusschere's 1962 NCAA team, for example, scheduled Western Ontario, Assumption, Christian Brothers, Regis, and Hillsdale). Or look at some other low to mid-majors that made last year's NCAA tournament. Morehead State (14 seed) played Shawnee State, Midway, St. Mary of the Woods, and Alice Lloyd. Yale (13 seed) played Vassar and Colby-Sawyer. Those were just the 1st two teams I pulled up. I'm just not buying the notion that a couple of easy wins harms the team. I think--again, especially in our current circumstance--that they can be beneficial to the program. And I’m not buying the notion that a couple of easy wins benefit the program or put any more buts in the seats. Games like that in my option are a waste of time and $. Davis scheduled Wayne State and where did that help our program? It helped the Detroit schools and Wayne State but it hurt UD twofold! Like I said earlier, would you drive up for a nothing game? Let’s not assume others are stupid enough to waste their time on something that means nothing. A coach can’t even access his team. It’s a wasted opportunity to improve. I for one cherish an opportunity for our team to beat Loyola! I don't think they'll put butts in the seats either. But I think they can help the program. I have seen many teams over the years, in a variety of sports, vastly improve their programs after, as a first step, scheduling down to be more competitive and get some easy wins. And yes, I'd like to go to Calihan and actually see the Titans win and come away feeling good. Ya know, eating nothing but cupcakes is no way to be healthy over the long term, but they're definitely one of life's little pleasures in moderation. I'm also looking forward to playing Loyola. As I mentioned elsewhere, it's a shame--and a sign of the times--that we can't even get Loyola to give us a 2 for 1, given our longstanding ties in athletics and religion, and the fact that Loyola doesn't draw that well when they play at home, so they're not giving up that much. P.S.-- The Titans have not played Wayne State in a regular season game since the fall of 2000. P.P.S.-- While we're discussing Loyola... These teams were on Loyola's schedule in the fall of 2014, the year the Ramblers went from 10 to 24 wins and began their rise back to national prominance: Rockhurst (Non D1), McKendree (Non D1), Abilene Christian (First year in D1, 10-21), Jackson State (11-21), and Southern Utah (10-19). By the time they made the Final Four in 2018, they'd toughened up the non-conference schedule, including games with Eureka College, Mississippi Valley State (4-28), Samford (10-22), and Norfolk State (14-19). P.P.P.S. -- You're old enough to remember when the Titans sold out Calihan Hall for games with the likes of Adrian. I suppose you can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool some of the people ... |
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Post by fan on Jun 22, 2024 0:55:45 GMT -5
So 0-for nothing Davis starts to a season is the way to go? What was next for Davis, all pay games before the HL, and don't maybe show up and forfeit the games and pocket the checks to fund the season.
Davis's pre-league scheduling was a disaster, and likely did more harm to the program than his coaching.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 25, 2024 13:15:23 GMT -5
It's been reported previously (and also seems obvious to some observers) that the Titans play a lot of buy games because they actually need the money to maintain the program. I doubt the programs makes much of anything from home games with 200 fans in attendance. I'd like to see us get a couple of sure (or as close to "sure" as we can get) wins on the schedule. I also understand the need to generate revenue at the cost of home dates, whether I agree with the philosophy or not.
So far, the schedule for 2024-25 appears to be heavy on buy games. I think that has less to do with the who the head coach is and more to do with the financial realties that we face. I don't think Davis was creating a road heavy schedule with only a couple of home dates and no "easy" games just for kicks.
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