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Post by ptctitan on May 19, 2024 4:58:19 GMT -5
I've read several opinions about Noah at BYU that mirror how he was here. If he's not hitting his 3 point shot, he does not influence the game with his rebounding and defense. In other words, he still plays like he did in our two playoff games at NKU in 2021 and 2022. Also, interesting that two of Pope's players at BYU, Aly Khalifa and Waterman, end up at Louisville and not at Kentucky with Pope.
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Post by calihanmole on May 19, 2024 9:44:56 GMT -5
What a bizarre college career for Waterman. Started in 2019 at Niagara. Had a redshirt there and only played eight games. Of course, then two years with us and then goes to BYU (as a non LDS student) for what at least has been rumored to have been a good NIL deal for a player of his relatively limited talent. And now he’s off to one of the strongest brands in college basketball during its struggling rebuild, presumably for some decent NIL cash.
At the end of his six year college career, Noah will have played for four schools and in five conferences. Will be able to say he played under Mike Davis and Mark Pope, who are as big of names as you will hear in college basketball. Started college hoops before the pandemic, which now seems quite long ago. Has the possibility of having started his college career with one President in the White House, played during a full term of another President, and then finishing his college play with the former President reclaiming the office. That’s in no way me bringing politics into the discussion, but just me using an example of how bizarre Waterman’s situation is when you think about it.
Commish could have had a Noah Waterman future career fiction writing contest four years ago, and no one could have written anything stranger than the truth that unfolded. I’m sure when Noah committed to Niagara in 2019, he didn’t think he’d be a professional college basketball journeyman playing in Provo Utah and then in Louisville in the year 2025. I mean, it’s just effing nuts and few stories illustrate how much college hoops have changed the past six years more than his.
Not sure how old Waterman will be this season. I’m guessing he will turn 24 or possibly 25. I don’t blame him for taking advantage of the opportunity that came his way. I’d do the same. I’d tell my son to do the same. Playing for Louisville, making probably six figures, earning a free degree, getting to live rent free in whatever pad they house their players, flying on chartered planes, eating good food, etc. sounds way better than playing in some garbage league in a small Eastern Europe country a little too close to Ukraine. Again, I don’t blame Waterman personally, but the fact that he’s playing college basketball in 2025 is just plain ridiculous. The guy has earned two college degrees and played in the NCAA tournament.
At any rate, best of luck, Noah! No former college basketball player will have a better finished basement than you with your impressive collection of jerseys.
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Post by upbasketballfan on May 19, 2024 10:04:56 GMT -5
What a bizarre college career for Waterman. Started in 2019 at Niagara. Had a redshirt there and only played eight games. Of course, then two years with us and then goes to BYU (as a non LDS student) for what at least has been rumored to have been a good NIL deal for a player of his relatively limited talent. And now he’s off to one of the strongest brands in college basketball during its struggling rebuild, presumably for some decent NIL cash. At the end of his six year college career, Noah will have played for four schools and in five conferences. Will be able to say he played under Mike Davis and Mark Pope, who are as big of names as you will hear in college basketball. Started college hoops before the pandemic, which now seems quite long ago. Has the possibility of having started his college career with one President in the White House, played during a full term of another President, and then finishing his college play with the former President reclaiming the office. That’s in no way me bringing politics into the discussion, but just me using an example of how bizarre Waterman’s situation is when you think about it. Commish could have had a Noah Waterman future career fiction writing contest four years ago, and no one could have written anything stranger than the truth that unfolded. I’m sure when Noah committed to Niagara in 2019, he didn’t think he’d be a professional college basketball journeyman playing in Provo Utah and then in Louisville in the year 2025. I mean, it’s just effing nuts and few stories illustrate how much college hoops have changed the past six years more than his. Not sure how old Waterman will be this season. I’m guessing he will turn 24 or possibly 25. I don’t blame him for taking advantage of the opportunity that came his way. I’d do the same. I’d tell my son to do the same. Playing for Louisville, making probably six figures, earning a free degree, getting to live rent free in whatever pad they house their players, flying on chartered planes, eating good food, etc. sounds way better than playing in some garbage league in a small Eastern Europe country a little too close to Ukraine. Again, I don’t blame Waterman personally, but the fact that he’s playing college basketball in 2025 is just plain ridiculous. The guy has earned two college degrees and played in the NCAA tournament. At any rate, best of luck, Noah! No former college basketball player will have a better finished basement than you with your impressive collection of jerseys. And do not count him out of the NBA just yet! |
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Post by Commissioner on May 19, 2024 10:37:16 GMT -5
Of course, this is partly due o the stupid “COVID year” rule, but that doesn’t really change the point or the reflections.
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Post by titansforever on May 19, 2024 11:57:51 GMT -5
He'll have a hard time deciding where to spend homecoming weekend.
I also wonder if he'll have a deep connection and love of his alma mater. Whichever school he considers that to be.
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Post by calihanmole on May 19, 2024 12:50:44 GMT -5
One correction to my post above. I stated that Waterman already has two degrees. After a little digging, I think it’s likely I was wrong about that. One article I found from March of this year says he will earn a degree in communications this spring (so, right now) but does not say it is a graduate level degree. Not sure what his situation was, but typically college basketball players that I follow earn two degrees after five years of schooling when you consider they rack up credits in the summers. I can think off two ND walk-ons the past few years who graduated in three years, and I can think of another who got out with a BA and MBA in four years. Maybe Waterman had a hard time with BYU taking his credits from Niagara and UDM.
It used to be that majors/minors of players and in some cases even GPAs were public knowledge and easy to find on webpages or game programs. It seems I can never find that information these days outside of Ivy League players or schools that take academics very seriously.
In the midst of all the big rule changes in recent years, people pay almost no attention to the rule change that student athletes who already possess an undergrad degree can be eligible to play if he is non-degree seeking student. Typically that means they are seeking a certificate, but not a legitimate degree that would make them a true alum of the university. The best example of this is probably Sam Hartman at ND last year. Personally, I think that’s a joke and I worry that eventually even undergrad students will just be students at large and taking a few classes here and there. If that happens, I’ll likely stop watching college sports all together.
That said, it will be interesting to see what Waterman decides to do at Louisville. Enroll in a true graduate degree program, or sign up for some baloney online certificate? Considering the lack of transparency with what these “student athletes” are doing these days, we may never even know.
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