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Post by motorcitysam on Oct 21, 2014 14:22:08 GMT -5
If you want to know something that hurts both the NBA and the NCAA, see this article about Florida's Chris Walker. Walker was already very hyped as a high school senior in class of 2013. Just about everyone rated him a top ten recruit in the nation. He was projected as a lottery pick in the 2014 NBA draft. He signed with Florida, but before the season started he was suspended for 12 games over academic and amateurism issues. When he joined the team, he played sparingly, and had no impact on what ended up being a Final Four team. He played 87 total minutes last year and scored 34 total points. It was recently announced he would be suspended for three games this year due to what is reported to be a second failed drug test, administered by the school. Despite all that, draft analysts still project him as a lottery pick. Players have the right to chase their dreams and money, and NBA team owners have the right to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at 19 year old kids who are not ready (and may never be ready) to compete in the NBA. However, all that movement of sub par players to the NBA has lessened my enjoyment of college and pro basketball. www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24761970/floridas-chris-walker-still-gets-benefit-of-doubt-despite-setbacks
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Post by motorcitysam on Aug 25, 2015 11:02:38 GMT -5
I remember when a 6-9 power forward shooting over 50% from the floor was more or less the norm, not an unusual occurrence worthy of a special mention. :-) From Twitter: Jon Rothstein @jonrothstein 3h3 hours ago How accurate offensively is Mississippi State's Gavin Ware? Shot no worse than 50% from field in each of his three seasons in college. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61636/gavin-ware
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 25, 2015 17:13:19 GMT -5
If you want to know something that hurts both the NBA and the NCAA, see this article about Florida's Chris Walker. Walker was already very hyped as a high school senior in class of 2013. Just about everyone rated him a top ten recruit in the nation. He was projected as a lottery pick in the 2014 NBA draft. He signed with Florida, but before the season started he was suspended for 12 games over academic and amateurism issues. When he joined the team, he played sparingly, and had no impact on what ended up being a Final Four team. He played 87 total minutes last year and scored 34 total points. It was recently announced he would be suspended for three games this year due to what is reported to be a second failed drug test, administered by the school. Despite all that, draft analysts still project him as a lottery pick. Players have the right to chase their dreams and money, and NBA team owners have the right to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at 19 year old kids who are not ready (and may never be ready) to compete in the NBA. However, all that movement of sub par players to the NBA has lessened my enjoyment of college and pro basketball. www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24761970/floridas-chris-walker-still-gets-benefit-of-doubt-despite-setbacksHaving raised this old thread, note that Walker did not enter the draft in 2014. After another very mediocre season in 2015, averaging under 15 minutes and 5 points per game, he declared and went undrafted.
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Post by motorcitysam on Aug 25, 2015 19:34:58 GMT -5
If you want to know something that hurts both the NBA and the NCAA, see this article about Florida's Chris Walker. Walker was already very hyped as a high school senior in class of 2013. Just about everyone rated him a top ten recruit in the nation. He was projected as a lottery pick in the 2014 NBA draft. He signed with Florida, but before the season started he was suspended for 12 games over academic and amateurism issues. When he joined the team, he played sparingly, and had no impact on what ended up being a Final Four team. He played 87 total minutes last year and scored 34 total points. It was recently announced he would be suspended for three games this year due to what is reported to be a second failed drug test, administered by the school. Despite all that, draft analysts still project him as a lottery pick. Players have the right to chase their dreams and money, and NBA team owners have the right to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at 19 year old kids who are not ready (and may never be ready) to compete in the NBA. However, all that movement of sub par players to the NBA has lessened my enjoyment of college and pro basketball. www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24761970/floridas-chris-walker-still-gets-benefit-of-doubt-despite-setbacksHaving raised this old thread, note that Walker did not enter the draft in 2014. After another very mediocre season in 2015, averaging under 15 minutes and 5 points per game, he declared and went undrafted. Would it have been so unbearable for him to stay in school, work on his game, get his degree, etc? That's a result of adults who should know better telling these kids what they want to hear and enabling that delusional mindset from a very early age.
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 18, 2016 19:55:03 GMT -5
Hey, I'm a 6-7, 190 freshman. I averaged 11 ppg on a bad team in a mid major conference. Shot 59 percent from the free throw line and 20% from three. I'm going pro!
Jeff Goodman @goodmanespn 3m3 minutes ago UNLV's Derrick Jones is officially staying in the draft and has signed with Aaron Turner.
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Post by Commissioner on Apr 18, 2016 20:55:03 GMT -5
These guys must figure they'll make money overseas. Are they really so gullible to think they'll be drafted?
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Post by motorcitysam on Aug 18, 2016 10:07:15 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Jan 24, 2019 20:07:54 GMT -5
Hey, I'm a 6-7, 190 freshman. I averaged 11 ppg on a bad team in a mid major conference. Shot 59 percent from the free throw line and 20% from three. I'm going pro! Jeff Goodman @goodmanespn 3m3 minutes ago UNLV's Derrick Jones is officially staying in the draft and has signed with Aaron Turner. Just goes to show how far the NBA has fallen. Derrick actually stuck in the NBA and has played a total of 87 games. He'll make $1.5 million this season.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jan 24, 2019 20:09:41 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 16, 2019 0:25:41 GMT -5
Duke and North Carolina combined to shoot 9-47 from three point range tonight. 9-47.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jul 10, 2019 14:52:37 GMT -5
Jarrett Culver was the #6 pick in the NBA draft this season. He's twenty years old and was drafted after completing his sophomore season at Texas Tech. Minnesota drafted him, and they announced this week that they would not allow him to play for their summer league team because they were worried about "overtaxing his body".
Again, he is twenty years old.
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Post by motorcitysam on Feb 8, 2021 13:48:31 GMT -5
Crazy bit of information from the Twitterverse via Bryan Ives:
None of the 13 winningest programs in D-I history are currently ranked in the AP Poll
1. Kentucky 2. Kansas 3. North Carolina 4. Duke 5. Temple 6. Syracuse 7. UCLA 8. Notre Dame 9. St John’s 10. Indiana 11. Arizona 12. Utah 13. Cincinnati
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 20, 2022 19:45:47 GMT -5
If chucking up threes and following "analytics" is really a more efficient and effective way to score, why are we seeing such terrible scoring games in the NCAA tournament. Wisconsin scored 45 points in a loss today, going 2-20 from three. I have seen at least a couple of games where a team has failed to break twenty in a half.
Is running for lay ups on the fast break and working the mid range game really so bad?
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Post by ptctitan on Mar 21, 2022 5:51:56 GMT -5
If chucking up threes and following "analytics" is really a more efficient and effective way to score, why are we seeing such terrible scoring games in the NCAA tournament. Wisconsin scored 45 points in a loss today, going 2-20 from three. I have seen at least a couple of games where a team has failed to break twenty in a half. Is running for lay ups on the fast break and working the mid range game really so bad? It shouldn't be so bad. But some of the modern rules hurt that type of game. I recall fondly Coach McCallum explaining to us about 10 years ago how the new freedom of movement rules would enable lots of driving and scoring. I don't think he envisioned the NCAA would take away freedom of movement inside the 3-point line by other rule changes. The so-called freedom of movement rules are enforced mostly from the 3-point line and outwards. From the elbow in, the rules permit all sorts of physical defensive play that would have been fouls decades ago. When these are combined with a 30 second shot clock and the collegiate interpretation of block-charge, the lane remains clogged and lay-ups are missed a lot because the shooter is being hit from the waist down while officials are looking at the ball. And then, most of the good teams have more length and speed at the old 2, 3, and 4 positions. They can reach and slap the ball away from a post or driver trying for a lay-up. With the lane clogged, most teams now opt to use 6-8 seconds getting the ball into the front court. Then, they run several high ball screens looking for a pick and roll or a pick and pop. Or they run a weave or several dribble hand-offs looking to create a mismatch on a defensive switch so they can isolate their player in that mismatch. And if that doesn't work in 15 seconds, then the player with the ball dribbles for 3 seconds before launching a low percentage 3. I think the NCAA believes incorrectly that the restricted zone solves the clogged lane issue. In truth, it only moves the problems closer to the foul line thereby hurting the mid-range jump shot. It's odd to see such low scoring these days when the major complaint about the 45 second clock and the 4-corners offense was equally low scoring. The only improvement seems to be that each futile offensive possession only lasts 30 seconds instead of 45 seconds.
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Post by fan on Mar 21, 2022 14:51:47 GMT -5
I think the low scores, especially in tournaments are due to strong guard play and really good defenses. Teams like this year's Miami, Memphis, and to some extent UCLA really push the ball, other teams try to control the tempo and keep the score in the 50's and 60"s. I think a team like Arizona yesterday got stuck in the middle yesterday and almost lost it all. Teams like IL, Auburn, TN, and KY looked very ordinary this past week.
Lastly, I'm not a big fan of sitting on a led and burning the clock, like NC did, doing that with Baylor is playing with fire. Once you give up the game that got you that led makes it hard to get it back if you need to.
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