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Post by Commissioner on Mar 15, 2015 23:56:02 GMT -5
Put any old odds and ends about 2015 postseason here.
Here's a little on who is not playing:
Best RPI teams not in NCAA: Colorado State (29), Temple (34), Tulsa (45), Old Dominion (46), Iona (51), La. Tech (54), Green Bay (55), Richmond (57), Stanford (59), Illinois State (62).
Best RPI teams not in NCAA/NIT: Yale (64), Syracuse (69)(probation), Florida (72), Toledo (79), Michigan (80), Massachusetts (81), Sam Houston St. (82), Memphis (83), UC-Santa Barbara (87), South Carolina (91).
Best RPI teams not in any post-season tournament: Somewhat ironically, same as best teams not in NCAA/NIT above, except for Sam Houston, which is in CIT, and Santa Barbara, which is in the CBI. Their places on the list would be taken by California (95) and Tennessee (96). This really shows the problem that the CBI is having getting power conference teams to play. The top RPI team in the CBI after Santa Barbara is Stony Brook (107). The only power conference team in the field is Colorado (117).
The CIT is even getting better mid majors than the CBI, with Sam Houston, High Point (89), and Kent State (94) all with top 100 RPIs.
Teams with 20 wins not in post-season: Hawaii 22-13 Georgia Southern 22-9 Yale 22-10 Chattanooga 22-10 Akron 21-14 Western Kentucky 20-12 Toledo 20-13
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 16, 2015 7:46:35 GMT -5
CBI RPIs: UC Santa Barbara 87 Stony Brook 107 Colorado 117 Loyola 123 Louisiana Monroe 131 Pepperdine 133 Eastern Michigan 139 Rider 140 Gardner Webb 146 Radford 154 Oral Roberts 163 Hofstra 174 Vermont 203 Delaware State 204 Mercer 212 Seattle 280
Why does this tournament continue to exist. It's not only no longer competing for team with the NIT, it's losing competition for teams with the CIT. I guess Gazelle Group makes money off it still.
CIT RPIs: Sam Houston State 82 High Point 89 Kent State 94 Bowling Green 109 Evansville 119 Western Michigan 120 Cleveland State 127 Middle Tennessee State 134 Sacramento State 141 Louisiana Lafayette 142 UNC-Wilmington 145 James Madison 148 Portland 149 Oakland 155 Eastern Kentucky 156 NJIT 159 Incarnate Word 160 Northwestern State 161 Northern Arizona 166 Norfolk State 167 St. Francis, NY 170 Eastern Illinois 173 Tennessee Martin 177 St. Francis, PA 179 Canisius 180 Dartmouth 186 New Hampshire 193 Maryland Eastern Shore 195 USC-Upstate 208 Texas A&M- Corpus Cristi 209 IPFW 215 Grand Canyon 274
Besides Yale (#64) and Toledo (79), the CIT either passed on, or the teams decided not to play, Chattanooga (22-10, #113), Georgia Southern (22-9, #114), and Akron (21-14, #116).
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 16, 2015 8:49:16 GMT -5
I can never keep the CIT and CBI straight in my mind, in terms of which is which. I don't mean to denigrate either, as I would be happy if U of D was in one of them this year. It does seem that eventually the CBI will no longer be economically viable.
I don't have a philosophical problem with either the CBI or the CIT, and if they are able to stay in existence, more power to them. On the other hand, I wouldn't miss them if they weren't around.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 16, 2015 8:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 16, 2015 9:26:10 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 17, 2015 8:42:07 GMT -5
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 18, 2015 7:32:28 GMT -5
Loyola drew 1105 for last night's CBI game.
For its CIT loss to Eastern Illinois, Oakland drew 2609, above its regular season average.
Other Attendance figures: CIT: James Madison @ USC-Upstate 711 Bowling Green @ St. Francis 1182 Norfolk State @ Eastern Kentucky 2950 Louisiana Lafayette @ Incarnate Word 1811
I suspect those are pretty good numbers for the latter 3 schools, more or less average or a bit above.
NIT: Iona @ Rhode Island - not reported (usually but not always a bad sign) North Carolina Central @ Miami 1612 George Washington at Pittsburgh 3049 Central Michigan @ Louisiana Tech 6904 Wm & Mary @ Tulsa 2547 Illinois @ Alabama 2348 UTEP @ Murray State 3376 UC-Davis @ Stanford 1436 Montana @ Texas A&M 2583
That's about half the regular attendance at Texas A&M, 20-25% for Stanford and Alabama, 25-30% for Pitt and Miami. Tulsa is probably at 50-60% of their season average, Murray State is probably a bit below their season average and La. Tech is probable well above their season average, probably by about a third to one-half. These are guesses based on recent year's attendance at these schools - I don't have this year's attendance figures in front of me.
It's very hard to draw for these first round games, which have almost zero promotion time, and are played less than 48 hours after being scheduled. Attendance normally rises in all these tournaments in later rounds. Still, those are pretty harsh numbers, though not out of line with past seasons.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 19, 2015 13:49:27 GMT -5
And the first upset in the NCAA tournament is in: #14 UAB over#3 Iowa State.
I had Iowa State as my surprise Final Four team. :-(
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 20, 2015 7:29:00 GMT -5
And the first upset in the NCAA tournament is in: #14 UAB over#3 Iowa State. I had Iowa State as my surprise Final Four team. :-( I think a lot of people did. I wasn't too surprised by Georgia States's upset -- they actually underperformed expectations this year and have some big time players. For my money, best two days of the year.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 20, 2015 10:39:36 GMT -5
And the first upset in the NCAA tournament is in: #14 UAB over#3 Iowa State. I had Iowa State as my surprise Final Four team. :-( I think a lot of people did. I wasn't too surprised by Georgia States's upset -- they actually underperformed expectations this year and have some big time players. For my money, best two days of the year. You get no argument from me on that point.
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