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Post by uddrummer on Mar 2, 2022 8:54:32 GMT -5
Pizza win is always a good win! Green Bay made it interesting, K. McAddo got the stagnant offense going again with the 3 point basket. Defense started strong, then lapsed during the Green Bay run. Bring on NKU. Go Titans!
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 2, 2022 14:32:41 GMT -5
On a day when not everything is clicking the way you want, it's great to have a player like Antoine who can almost win a game by himself. Just a phenomenal game for the young man.
Good to see Akec get out there and get some action.
With regards to Koka, I think some people are too hard on him. He's a hard worker, a great student, and puts forth effort. He has been fighting to overcome injuries during his Titan career, but appears to be a good teammate, staying engaged even during the games he's not playing. Stays out of trouble and boosts the academic performance of the team. I'm not saying he's even having the impact of a guy like NJ, but he's CERTAINLY a better Titan than Pat Ackerman, who was basically none of the things that I mentioned above in relation to Koka.
I'm fine with Koka coming back next year. He'll probably complete his graduate degree, continue to help the program academically, and maybe he will be healthy and able to contribute more than he has previously.
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Post by JDetroitTitan on Mar 2, 2022 14:56:06 GMT -5
On a day when not everything is clicking the way you want, it's great to have a player like Antoine who can almost win a game by himself. Just a phenomenal game for the young man. Good to see Akec get out there and get some action. With regards to Koka, I think some people are too hard on him. He's a hard worker, a great student, and puts for effort. He has been fighting to overcome injuries during his Titan career, but appears to be a good teammate, staying engaged even during the games he's not playing. Stays out of trouble and boosts the academic performance of the team. I'm not saying he's even having the impact of a guy like NJ, but he's CERTAINLY a better Titan than Pat Ackerman, who was basically none of the things that I mentioned above in relation to Koka. I'm fine with Koka coming back next year. He'll probably complete his graduate degree, continue to help the program academically, and maybe he will be healthy and able to contribute more than he has previously. I like Koka and think he has talent enough to be a difference maker on the court but he will have to keep working at it and practicing hard( putting more time in would really help him get there quicker) to get there. People at the beginning of the year didn't see what I saw in DJ. At the end of the year I bet every titan fan would put him as a starting 5 guy hands down. You have to watch these guys live to really evaluate their talent because stats don't tell the whole story only part of it. I also thing Mo is another guy in the same boat as Koka. I am not going to compare anything else on them because they have different attributes and style on the court even though they play the same position. I really like this core team we have going forward if everyone that can stay, stays and get another two 5 positions or 4 and 5 (to replace the spots/scholarships of Matt and Willy). It will be big to have everyone playing with each other for a second year. I think we could do some big damage in and out of are league (postseason too).
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 2, 2022 17:55:11 GMT -5
On a day when not everything is clicking the way you want, it's great to have a player like Antoine who can almost win a game by himself. Just a phenomenal game for the young man. Good to see Akec get out there and get some action. With regards to Koka, I think some people are too hard on him. He's a hard worker, a great student, and puts forth effort. He has been fighting to overcome injuries during his Titan career, but appears to be a good teammate, staying engaged even during the games he's not playing. Stays out of trouble and boosts the academic performance of the team. I'm not saying he's even having the impact of a guy like NJ, but he's CERTAINLY a better Titan than Pat Ackerman, who was basically none of the things that I mentioned above in relation to Koka. I'm fine with Koka coming back next year. He'll probably complete his graduate degree, continue to help the program academically, and maybe he will be healthy and able to contribute more than he has previously. Sam I disagree with you on Koka I truely feel he hurts us every time he steps on the court. In the zone he never closes out and gives up the open corner 3. When he comes high top assist he does not know when to get back. He spends too much time on his ass on the floor and underneath he plays more like he is 5’9 “ 100 lbs. constantly backing up and with his flailing arms he hammers our guys as much as theirs. It’s like playing 4.5 vs 5.5. Does seem to be a good teammate and does stay engaged on the bench. Not better than Ackerman I didn’t like Ack but he would eat this guy alive on the floor. Koka does look to be a better teammate than Ackerman but that might includ 95% of all Titans. Sylla on the other hand is really workable and could end up being pretty good. I guess it just depends if you want a deep team or you want 8 good guys and 5 who can cheer like hell.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 2, 2022 20:36:48 GMT -5
On a day when not everything is clicking the way you want, it's great to have a player like Antoine who can almost win a game by himself. Just a phenomenal game for the young man. Good to see Akec get out there and get some action. With regards to Koka, I think some people are too hard on him. He's a hard worker, a great student, and puts forth effort. He has been fighting to overcome injuries during his Titan career, but appears to be a good teammate, staying engaged even during the games he's not playing. Stays out of trouble and boosts the academic performance of the team. I'm not saying he's even having the impact of a guy like NJ, but he's CERTAINLY a better Titan than Pat Ackerman, who was basically none of the things that I mentioned above in relation to Koka. I'm fine with Koka coming back next year. He'll probably complete his graduate degree, continue to help the program academically, and maybe he will be healthy and able to contribute more than he has previously. Sam I disagree with you on Koka I truely feel he hurts us every time he steps on the court. In the zone he never closes out and gives up the open corner 3. When he comes high top assist he does not know when to get back. He spends too much time on his ass on the floor and underneath he plays more like he is 5’9 “ 100 lbs. constantly backing up and with his flailing arms he hammers our guys as much as theirs. It’s like playing 4.5 vs 5.5. Does seem to be a good teammate and does stay engaged on the bench. Not better than Ackerman I didn’t like Ack but he would eat this guy alive on the floor. Koka does look to be a better teammate than Ackerman but that might includ 95% of all Titans. Sylla on the other hand is really workable and could end up being pretty good. I guess it just depends if you want a deep team or you want 8 good guys and 5 who can cheer like hell. Sorry, UP, I can't see Ack eating anyone alive on the court. For one thing, he'd have to care enough to do it, and he never showed that he cared at all. It would take some effort, and he never showed much of that. And he'd have to actually be on the court, which is not a given considering that the was suspended at least twice as a Titan and abruptly quit the team after the season started. You tell me that NJ could wipe the floor with Koka, I'll buy that. Heck, if you say Jermaine Lippert could do it I won't argue. But Ackerman was here long enough to burn up three years of scholarship and proved during that time that he wasn't interested in contributing in any way to the team. Besides, I'm not one to rip college players on a public board just because they aren't playing as well as I want them to, especially when they are doing everything else right.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 2, 2022 23:45:45 GMT -5
Sam I disagree with you on Koka I truely feel he hurts us every time he steps on the court. In the zone he never closes out and gives up the open corner 3. When he comes high top assist he does not know when to get back. He spends too much time on his ass on the floor and underneath he plays more like he is 5’9 “ 100 lbs. constantly backing up and with his flailing arms he hammers our guys as much as theirs. It’s like playing 4.5 vs 5.5. Does seem to be a good teammate and does stay engaged on the bench. Not better than Ackerman I didn’t like Ack but he would eat this guy alive on the floor. Koka does look to be a better teammate than Ackerman but that might includ 95% of all Titans. Sylla on the other hand is really workable and could end up being pretty good. I guess it just depends if you want a deep team or you want 8 good guys and 5 who can cheer like hell. Sorry, UP, I can't see Ack eating anyone alive on the court. For one thing, he'd have to care enough to do it, and he never showed that he cared at all. It would take some effort, and he never showed much of that. And he'd have to actually be on the court, which is not a given considering that the was suspended at least twice as a Titan and abruptly quit the team after the season started. You tell me that NJ could wipe the floor with Koka, I'll buy that. Heck, if you say Jermaine Lippert could do it I won't argue. But Ackerman was here long enough to burn up three years of scholarship and proved during that time that he wasn't interested in contributing in any way to the team. Besides, I'm not one to rip college players on a public board just because they aren't playing as well as I want them to, especially when they are doing everything else right. Looks like we agree to disagree on this one. I didn’t think I was ripping him just stating my opinion that he is a 7 ft. guy on a college basketball scholarship who looks to be a decent guy but he just can’t play basketball and another year here probably isn’t going to help him get better and that will be his third year here on scholarship. Not sure what is going on as if he does play here next year it will be his sixth year of playing college basketball. His bio states he went to Tulane for 4 years. Played there as a Frosh, Soph. And Jr. but did not play his senior year. Wouldn’t that be 6 in 6 if he returns? I did exaggerate on Ackerman wiping the floor with Koka. Ackerman was a disappointing Titan both as a player and a person.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 3, 2022 10:42:29 GMT -5
Koka has to be the worst defensive player I have seen as a Titan. In 3 min. Gives up 2 baskets He’s a 7’ guy we took a chance on. He contributes what he can. He keeps his nose clean and gets good grades. If he wants to stay, we honor his scholarship. Every team will have someone who is the 11th 12th or 13th man. You could do a LOT worse than Koka in that role. I’ll welcome him back next season.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 3, 2022 12:00:08 GMT -5
I would like to see the team improve and start winning. It frustrates me with the obsession on here for 7’ ers I would like to see some 6’7” - 6’9” guys with some athletic ability who might have a chance to contribute. I think the ability to play the game out weighs where a guys forehead is. Hey, who Davis passes his scholarships out to is his business! I can just sit and hope for success for the program.
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Post by kirky313 on Mar 3, 2022 13:39:07 GMT -5
We're still talking about Pat Ackerman 5-6 years later? Seriously? I am Sorry his comment that had a whole lot of truth behind it about the udm student experience was offensive to some of you. But do you think Eric Musselman hires him and brings him from Nevada to Arkansas if he was a bad teammate? Or Pat Donnelly gets him a job at UDJ in advancement if he was a bad teammate. The dude is 7ft tall that's hard on the knees. He's not the only player Ray ran off.. Pat O was told to play through injury and exhaust eligibility, he said he wouldn’t do that had surgery and rehabbed and went and played for Mike Davis at TX Southern.
Most of these 7ft guys don’t grow into their bodies and we get them.. if they end up at a mid-major they’re not banging in the paint, they are generally are slower and just a body to rebound and get a block or two. We don't know whos on scholarship. Koka is very smart I assume he keeps our APR up, like UP said if Mike Davis wants to give him a free ride and id assume grad students don't count as full scholarships.. who are we to judge.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 3, 2022 14:09:32 GMT -5
... Most of these 7ft guys don’t grow into their bodies and we get them.. if they end up at a mid-major they’re not banging in the paint, they are generally are slower and just a body to rebound and get a block or two. We don't know whos on scholarship. Koka is very smart I assume he keeps our APR up, like UP said if Mike Davis wants to give him a free ride and id assume grad students don't count as full scholarships.. who are we to judge. I don't think UP meant that last quite the way you do, Kirky.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 3, 2022 14:10:30 GMT -5
I would like to see the team improve and start winning. It frustrates me with the obsession on here for 7’ ers I would like to see some 6’7” - 6’9” guys with some athletic ability who might have a chance to contribute. I think the ability to play the game out weighs where a guys forehead is. Hey, who Davis passes his scholarships out to is his business! I can just sit and hope for success for the program. No doubt if we'd taken a flyer on a 6-7 guy to be our 10th man instead of a 7' guy, he'd have bloomed into a star.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 3, 2022 14:14:59 GMT -5
We're still talking about Pat Ackerman 5-6 years later? Seriously? I am Sorry his comment that had a whole lot of truth behind it about the udm student experience was offensive to some of you. But do you think Eric Musselman hires him and brings him from Nevada to Arkansas if he was a bad teammate? Or Pat Donnelly gets him a job at UDJ in advancement if he was a bad teammate. The dude is 7ft tall that's hard on the knees. He's not the only player Ray ran off.. Pat O was told to play through injury and exhaust eligibility, he said he wouldn’t do that had surgery and rehabbed and went and played for Mike Davis at TX Southern. Most of these 7ft guys don’t grow into their bodies and we get them.. if they end up at a mid-major they’re not banging in the paint, they are generally are slower and just a body to rebound and get a block or two. We don't know whos on scholarship. Koka is very smart I assume he keeps our APR up, like UP said if Mike Davis wants to give him a free ride and id assume grad students don't count as full scholarships.. who are we to judge. Kirky, I know you and Ack hung out but you are way wrong on this one. I was done with it, but since you want to keep it going... First of all, Ack isn't the only guy out there who gets discussed here after he leaves. Generally speaking, we were talking about bad Titan players, which is why his name came up. It's like when John Long's name comes up when we're talking about great Titan scorers. No one is going out of their way to pick on Ack. He's just the first example that came to mind. And what truth was behind his comment "I wish I went to a real school" while he was enrolled at U-D? U-D isn't a real school? You didn't graduate from a real school? I (and all the rest of the alumni on this board) didn't graduate from a real school? "Offensive to some of you"? Heck, why weren't you offended? If he meant something different, he should have said that. Was Penn State a real school? Because he got kicked out of there. Obviously someone called in a favor or two to get Ack into coaching, because with just about anyone else, a background that consists of getting kicked off of one team, quitting another, and mixing in a bunch of disciplinary actions including suspensions is not good enough to get you into the coaching fraternity. And I don't think any of that was because "he's seven feet tall with bad knees". At any rate, what he did after he left in no way excuses what he did while he was here. And you comparing him to Patrick O isn't the defense you think it is. You ever hear people on this board ripping on Pat O? Nope. When his name comes up it is usually about the no call against Oakland when he was fouled in the last seconds or the fact that it negatively impacted the team when he got hurt. You know why? Because when he was here he played hard, put forth the effort, and respected his team and this University, at least publicly. That's the same reason people don't rip on Big O or Lippert. I'm guessing that in the coming years people won't be ripping on Boe, Marquis, and other players who didn't live up to expectations here. I'll make you a deal. I'll stop telling the truth about Ack if you stop defending him.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 3, 2022 15:06:09 GMT -5
... Most of these 7ft guys don’t grow into their bodies and we get them.. if they end up at a mid-major they’re not banging in the paint, they are generally are slower and just a body to rebound and get a block or two. We don't know whos on scholarship. Koka is very smart I assume he keeps our APR up, like UP said if Mike Davis wants to give him a free ride and id assume grad students don't count as full scholarships.. who are we to judge. I don't think UP meant that last quite the way you do, Kirky. Patrick O never played at Texas Southern he. Went from Detroit to Alcorn State and Davis never coached there. Every one does handle pain and injuries differently. Some play through it other really can’t!
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 3, 2022 15:20:51 GMT -5
I don't think UP meant that last quite the way you do, Kirky. Patrick O never played at Texas Southern he. Went from Detroit to Alcorn State and Davis never coached there. Every one does handle pain and injuries differently. Some play through it other really can’t! Actually, he played at Texas Southern, but not for Davis. He played at Texas Southern before transferring to Detroit, in 2012, the year before Davis started there. Then he spent a year in juco at Highland CC, then Detroit (playing 1 year and injury redshirt the next) then to Alcorn.
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Post by kirky313 on Mar 4, 2022 8:39:08 GMT -5
I was not offended by the comment because I understood the context. The experience is absolutely horrid like everyone is gone on the weekend. The school does little to nothing in terms of programming or events. They don't do anything to get students to games. If I got to go to stuff at Penn State id be upset too. I get that it was offensive to some of you but he's not the person he's made out to be by that comment. To be honest, we have never been close friends, but when you have class and work on projects together you learn who is really a good teammate. Also for the record, unless you have a business, PA, nursing, engineering, dental, or law degree from UDM everyone under 40 does not have the best opinion of UDM unless you went there or know people who did. The people who have been like " U of D is a good school" are over 40 but really over 50. I've had young people in my field tell me going to UDM was a huge waste of time and money, Despite having a top 10 school counseling program in the Midwest (what I am currently at UDM for) Just I guess my rebuttal and 2 cents. Two players were misled and really hurt our program and they deserve all the criticism.
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