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Post by calihanmole on Nov 12, 2021 16:14:48 GMT -5
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Post by happy on Nov 16, 2021 16:14:50 GMT -5
Loyola Chicago will become the 15th member of the Atlantic 10 in the 2022-23 academic year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 17:18:18 GMT -5
Loyola Chicago will become the 15th member of the Atlantic 10 in the 2022-23 academic year. There's our open spot in the MVC! Now if we could just win a few games
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 17:20:48 GMT -5
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Post by Rogobob77 on Nov 16, 2021 17:21:49 GMT -5
Loyola Chicago will become the 15th member of the Atlantic 10 in the 2022-23 academic year. There's our open spot in the MVC! Now if we could just win a few games According to one report I just saw, Texas-Arlington, Murray St. and UM-Kansas City in final stages of discussions to join the Valley.
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Post by titantarheel on Nov 16, 2021 17:39:23 GMT -5
Good for the Ramblers. It wasn’t long ago they were a very very mediocre Horizon team. And here they are graduating another step up the chain.
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Post by motorcitysam on Nov 16, 2021 17:44:41 GMT -5
Good for the Ramblers. It wasn’t long ago they were a very very mediocre Horizon team. And here they are graduating another step up the chain. Yeah, they didn't do much on the court to earn that invite to the Valley, but they have certainly overachieved on their way to the A10.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 17:57:00 GMT -5
Twitter thread on who the 16th team in the A10 could be. One sportswriter's thought
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Post by Rogobob77 on Nov 19, 2021 11:10:20 GMT -5
Interesting article about MVC expansion options. Horizon schools are potential targets, you could probably make a case that the odds UIC will be plucked are pretty good (unless MVC adds just a single school at this time, then I’m assuming Murray St. would be the fill behind Loyola). NKU, Milwaukee and Wright St. are also mentioned. My guess is that the Detroit schools are perhaps too far out of the MVC footprint to be serious considerations. If they did reach out to Michigan (I personally think less likely but who knows), I’m guessing Oakland might be a more attractive alternative to Detroit Mercy based on considerations of enrollment size, recent MBB trajectory, success of non-BB sports, facilities (especially for non-BB sports), future potential, financial resources, and our own institutional inertia. Here’s the link: www.tribstar.com/sports/todd-aaron-golden-mvc-needs-to-hit-sweet-spot-between-markets-and-good-basketball-fit/article_90adeba4-82af-509f-8768-22e6d6ff3454.html
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Post by Commissioner on Nov 25, 2021 10:44:02 GMT -5
Good for the Ramblers. It wasn’t long ago they were a very very mediocre Horizon team. And here they are graduating another step up the chain. It is a remarkable climb for the Ramblers. Credit the administration for making the commitment, and Porter Moser and Clayton Custer and others for taking advantage. And credit good luck, and taking advantage of opportunities when they appear. You get so few oppotunities, and you have to take advantage when they come. Loyola probably should have been passed over for the MVC invite, based on their recent history. But the MVC wanted Chicago's market, and some schools wanted a private, not a public (UIC), and Loyola saw that small opening and acted fast. Our leadership passed on similar opportunities in the 1980s and 1990s, and made no effort to really position ourselves for such a moment after Perry Watson's successes, or even Ray McCallum's. And once in, Loyola again took advantage of skill and luck. Remember, that 2018 Loyola Final Four squad had a very good regular season, but still probably needed to win the MVC tournament to even get to the NCAA. They might have gotten an at-large bid, but it would have been dicey, especially if they lost in the 1st round. So in the first round of the MVC tournament they beat Northern Iowa by 4 after trailing much of the game. Then, in the first round of the NCAAs, they trailed most of the game before beating Miami 64-62 on a three pointer with 1 second left. That shot is slightly off the mark, and Loyola goes home, and few remember they made the tournament. In the second round against Tennessee, they win on a jumper with 5 seconds left for a 63-62 win. That shot rattles out, or Tennessee's last ditch effort goes in, and only Loyola fans will recall the year. That puts them in the Sweet 16, which is nice, but 1-2 mid-majors reach the Sweet 16 almost every year, and few can springboard it into ongoing success. But Loyola benefits from upsets elsewhere--instead of facing the #2 seed, they get #7 Nevada, another mid-major, and advance to the Elite 8 by beating Nevada 69-68. Upsets favor them again--in the regional final, they don't face a #1, but instead #9 Kansas State, and finally get an easier win ((78-62). That's a lot of luck. Credit to Loyola for taking advantage of the draw, for hitting big shots, for putting themselves in a position to win. But would any of the last 4 years have happened if they'd lost to Northern Iowa and gone to the NIT, or lost to Miami or Tennessee, or even Nevada in the Sweet 16? Ray had some real talent in 2012 and 2013. But the Titans really never hit the big shot or got the big upset. I think those teams had as much talent as the 2018 Loyola squad. Perry's teams were great, but imagine if it had been us, and not Gonzaga, that made that Elite 8 run and became national darlings in 1999? (We and Gonzaga had very similar seasons that year up to the second round of the NCAA tournament. We beat them, 49-48, in a game in November on a neutral floor. Our two teams were about as close in talent and performance as two mid-majors can get--until the NCAA Round of 32). So you need some luck, but you also need foresight that puts you in the right place at the right time; you need ability; and you've got to really want it. I don't know if the Titans really want it--I think that is why Coach Davis was so disappointed when the some on the team didn't want to play in the CBI last year; and I think why many of us get so frustrated when we see little things (like mics on media day or something) not being done right. The current round of realignments seems likely to pass us by again, and maybe see our conference get weaker as NKU or WSU is poached. As the A10 and MVC hit 16 or more teams, there won't be any more room to go elsewhere. Maybe we can join a league with Holy Cross, Long Island, and other one-time powers. We'll call it the Golden Memories Conference, and we'll disband when the last fan who remembers John Long and Terry Tyler dies off.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Nov 25, 2021 11:47:11 GMT -5
I just saw a commercial on the Lion - Bears game that deals with a lot of our demise. It states “ fortune favors the bold”. It takes some luck but it also takes some effort and guts to put yourself out there to have an opportunity. We took a chance and selected a group of administrators without foresight while Loyola acquired a more forward thinking group. You have to wonder if the administrative groups were reversed, would the results also be reversed? Loyola’s trajectory and ours are almost exact opposites yet we still have some here who want us to be patient and trust the present path and path makers. There are more times than not when I as a fan feel a lot like a Lemming.
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