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Post by fan on Mar 26, 2022 9:50:27 GMT -5
St Peter's runs a very "eastern style" offense, lots of screens and picks, they crowd the defensive boards, much like the old St Johns teams. In fact, you can go back 100 years to when Claire Bee invented the "LIU Weave" and modernized the game of basketball, St Peter's is that 100 years later, their movement rarely ends up with a corner three but rather a cut to the basket.
Purdue lost that game to St Peter's at halftime when they came out and went to their big men to use their size to win the game. First, their two big men were very average, the 7 foot 4 kid has hands like two by fours, and in time turns the ball over more than he scores, the other big man is ok but can't carry the team.
As for the NC game, between NC and UCLA, I think St Peter's got a better draw, and has a better chance again NC. This is not one of NC's better teams, they did beat Duke in the regular season and beat Baylor, but Baylor came out flat and NC was hot, and still almost lost it.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 26, 2022 11:22:09 GMT -5
St. Peters was a good story for 2022. Will be sad to see it come to an end by 25 tomorrow. š Good story. Last year it was Oral Roberts. I think Purdue ends the ride tomorrow. I was way wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2022 11:36:48 GMT -5
Just proves that it's not what you have, it's what you do with it. I guess the right coach does really make a difference.
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Post by lafan on Mar 26, 2022 12:09:32 GMT -5
I forget, but back in the 70's did U of D hire a little known coach from north Jersey? I don't remember his name off-hand, but he helped U of D jump start their program despite not being a big name.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 26, 2022 13:08:12 GMT -5
I thought Purdue actually did the right thing trying to take advantage of their size. Edey and Williams combined to go 12-22 from the floor. The rest of the Boilermakers went 11-33 including 5-21 from three. The Peacocks must have been happy with every Purdue possession that ended in a low percentage shot. And there were plenty.
Props to the Peacocks for taking care of the ball (only 8 turnovers) and seizing the moment.
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Post by larrytitan on Mar 26, 2022 15:40:55 GMT -5
Matthew Lee of St Peterās is the son of Butch Lee. Butch was the point guard of Al McGuires championship Marquette team in 1977.
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Post by udballer on Mar 26, 2022 16:13:07 GMT -5
True, but people will remember St. Peter's for years and years and will have forgotten about who beat them in less than a week. I thought Purdue would school them, I've never been so happy to be wrong. Fear the Peacock!Ā Completely agree. The B1G turned out to be a complete and total fraud this season.
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Post by fan on Mar 26, 2022 18:33:17 GMT -5
MC Sam, there is an old-school "truism" you can't win a tournament at any level without good guards and a great defense, Purdue went with their bigs the second half to win, and they couldn't carry the team to a W. St Peter run with 3 guards and sometimes 4 and it works for them.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 26, 2022 19:23:33 GMT -5
MC Sam, there is an old-school "truism" you can't win a tournament at any level without good guards and a great defense, Purdue went with their bigs the second half to win, and they couldn't carry the team to a W. St Peter run with 3 guards and sometimes 4 and it works for them. Yes, that's true if your guards are playing well. Sometimes good guard play is effectively feeding the post and ensuring the team gets good shots. Purdue's guards were bad all day. They got plenty of opportunities throughout the game. They weren't up to the task. Their frontcourt game was most effective, but they didn't take advantage of it.
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Post by Rogobob77 on Mar 27, 2022 8:26:06 GMT -5
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Post by fan on Mar 27, 2022 8:57:46 GMT -5
Money for sports or in general always seems to be a problem for the St Peter's or UDM's of the world, the above ESPN story clearly explains the disparity between the haves and have nots.
Last week the WSJ ran a piece about casinos and college sports, and featured Gonzaga and their star Drew Timme, certain ads showed Timme in a casino in his Gonzaga uniform and one at him at a gambling
table seeming to play his #2. Certainly, Gonzaga has the same or similar values and mission as UDM. Gonzaga has had the Northern Quest Resort and Casino as a sponsor for 18 years, and now gets
more than six figures a year from Northern Quest for that sponsorship. The college sports landscape has changed drastically in the past few years. Perhaps it's time for the UDM to rethink their branding
and et in the game, perhaps even with the Motor City Casino or MGM.
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Post by nctitan on Mar 27, 2022 14:55:09 GMT -5
As I recall, in the HL the payout is divided by the number of schools in the league +1. The additional share goes to the school that "earned" the check. And, yes, paid out over time, not all at once. We all got a nice bump when Butler made those two final game runs, but that is all paid out by now. For St. Peter's the value of the run is going to be publicity, additional applications (although that might not translate into all that many more admissions), and I hope, for their sake, increased alumni contributions and some sponsorships. That will undoubtedly dwarf the cash payout from the NCAA, where the payoffs are broadly skewed to the power conferences that automatically get multiple tourney bids and therefore much higher payouts to split among their member institutions.
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Post by Commissioner on Mar 27, 2022 16:46:45 GMT -5
As I recall, in the HL the payout is divided by the number of schools in the league +1. The additional share goes to the school that "earned" the check. And, yes, paid out over time, not all at once. We all got a nice bump when Butler made those two final game runs, but that is all paid out by now. For St. Peter's the value of the run is going to be publicity, additional applications (although that might not translate into all that many more admissions), and I hope, for their sake, increased alumni contributions and some sponsorships. That will undoubtedly dwarf the cash payout from the NCAA, where the payoffs are broadly skewed to the power conferences that automatically get multiple tourney bids and therefore much higher payouts to split among their member institutions. Each share this year is worth $338,210.96 a year for 6 years. (Last year it was $337,141). So for the Horizon, Wright State's 2 games would be worth about $676,000. I think it may be divided 14 ways, not 13, but I don't know. (1 for each team, 1 more for the team that played, and 1 for the league office). Anyway, in the HL I think each NCAA "unit" is worth about $25,000 to $30,000 per team, so for the next 6 years we get maybe $50-$60K from WSU's appearance this year. But remember that we also are collecting our share of 1 NCAA unit for each of the past 5 years (although each of those shares is worth less because the NCAA per unit value keeps going up). So next year the Horizon League will collect for 7 units--2 from this year, plus 1 from each of the last 5 years, and each team will get a fraction of that--1/13th or 1/14th or whatever. Except I assume they didn't delay payments when the tournament was cancelled in 2020, but nobody got any units. So I guess the league probably gets 6 units next year. Also, I don't know if IUPUI or PFW get anything for the years before they joined the conference. The NCAA encourages conferences to share the loot equally, but there's no requirement that they do so and different leagues divvy it up in different ways. Anyway, it's definitely a cash boost for St. Peter's but unless the MAAC has an unusual system that really skews in favor of the team that played, it's probably not much more than it would be if Iona or Monmouth has reached the Elite 8. Still, and extra $25-$30K/year probably covers St. Peter's recruiting budget. You could do things like improve the locker room, pay for an overseas trip one summer--lots of stuff.
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Post by upbasketballfan on Mar 27, 2022 18:06:02 GMT -5
North Carolina with starters still in 25 point lead under 4 min. . Hoping one of their guys get injured and they get blown out next game.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 27, 2022 18:16:08 GMT -5
North Carolina with starters still in 25 point lead under 4 min. . Hoping one of their guys get injured and they get blown out next game. UP, you don't really mean that about hoping someone gets hurt, do you?
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