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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 2, 2020 15:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 4, 2020 14:02:13 GMT -5
If you haven't read this SI article yet, you should. It provides an interesting look at the college basketball environment of the time. The contrast between then and now is striking. |
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Post by rbj on Apr 4, 2020 15:18:11 GMT -5
If you haven't read this SI article yet, you should. It provides an interesting look at the college basketball environment of the time. The contrast between then and now is striking. I agree it also shows how far Brad Kinsman and his predecessor let the program fall. We just are not able to recruit head to head against certain schools in this era. Twenty five years ago when Perry Watson was recruiting Jermaine Jackson, these were his final 5 choices and the schools he took official campus visits to: Wisconsin Xavier Ball State Eastern Michigan Detroit Michigan State also offered in the 23rd hour. In 2020 JJSr. would've been a Wisconsin Badger or a Xavier Musketeer. I am sure Long and Tyler both had more impressive offer sheets. It seems as if the gap between the Power 5 schools and the mid majors is widening every year. Although I think UofD is closer to being a low major. |
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Post by nctitan on Apr 4, 2020 17:50:47 GMT -5
The article really reflects how much college basketball has changed in 45 years.
1. Conferences had a single tournament choice, so being an independent was a benefit.
2. The gap between the Power 5 schools and the rest of college basketball wasn't as gross. The Marquettes and the Detroits could compete, could keep local talent. The fact that Detroit could be in the running for Tom Lagarde shows that. Now every top player in the country is targeted and known and the big schools cherry-pick. Who was the last five-star player from Detroit who didn't go to Michigan or MSU or another Power 5 school. Would today's Deave DeBusschere or Moses Malone ever consider Detroit or a similar school? It's not an even playing field anymore.
3. Fifty and sixty years ago the private schools (mostly Catholic) were the same level as the big guys. San Francisco, Seattle, Detroit, Loyola, Davidson, Holy Cross. Today, other than Duke, Syracuse, Villanova, and Gonzaga who is a regularly dominant school that is not a public college? The private schools (other than Duke and Syracuse) in the Power 5 conferences are mostly second division schools.
The Big East is the anomaly conference, all private schools. Although that is about to change when UConn joins. But of the storied members of that conference on Villanova is still a consistent big-time player.
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Post by Commissioner on Apr 4, 2020 20:03:10 GMT -5
The article really reflects how much college basketball has changed in 45 years. 1. Conferences had a single tournament choice, so being an independent was a benefit. 2. The gap between the Power 5 schools and the rest of college basketball wasn't as gross. The Marquettes and the Detroits could compete, could keep local talent. The fact that Detroit could be in the running for Tom Lagarde shows that. Now every top player in the country is targeted and known and the big schools cherry-pick. Who was the last five-star player from Detroit who didn't go to Michigan or MSU or another Power 5 school. Would today's Deave DeBusschere or Moses Malone ever consider Detroit or a similar school? It's not an even playing field anymore. 3. Fifty and sixty years ago the private schools (mostly Catholic) were the same level as the big guys. San Francisco, Seattle, Detroit, Loyola, Davidson, Holy Cross. Today, other than Duke, Syracuse, Villanova, and Gonzaga who is a regularly dominant school that is not a public college? The private schools (other than Duke and Syracuse) in the Power 5 conferences are mostly second division schools. The Big East is the anomaly conference, all private schools. Although that is about to change when UConn joins. But of the storied members of that conference on Villanova is still a consistent big-time player. These are good general points. There are also specific points relevant to UD. 1. When All-Americans Bill Ebben and Dave DeBusschere enrolled, Calihan Hall was a state of the art facility. 60 years later, it is still our home, and goes by "historic" Calihan; we have gone from superior to inferior facilities; 2. The University of Detroit has a smaller undergraduate enrollment than it did in the 60s and 70s, and a much higher percentage of female students. While the latter fact is true of most schools, most of our competitors have grown in size, which is important for attendance, resources, and alumni base; 3. Detroit is a much smaller city, hence far fewer kids enrolled in the schools and playing hoops, and hence a less fertile recruiting area; 4. The MHSAA has made a number of decisions that make Michigan a less attractive place for blue chippers, and quite a few of the best players leave the state; 5. Each year, such reputation as we have, established by DeBusschere, Haywood, and whole Vitale/Gaines crew, grows dimmer. |
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Post by Rogobob77 on Apr 18, 2020 15:32:59 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 26, 2020 13:42:13 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Jun 9, 2020 12:32:07 GMT -5
Dickie V turns 81 years old today.
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Post by motorcitysam on Sept 15, 2020 12:00:23 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Nov 22, 2020 16:52:40 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 2, 2021 21:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by motorcitysam on Jul 27, 2021 13:37:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 16:02:17 GMT -5
Get well soon!
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Post by motorcitysam on Oct 27, 2021 11:00:04 GMT -5
Vitale getting support and good wishes from many in the basketball community.
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Post by happy on Nov 14, 2021 16:27:05 GMT -5
Dick Vitale (@dickiev) Tweeted: LANE KIFFIN can flat out coach / inspire / motivate as @olemissfb dominates Texas A& M tonight 29-19 t.co/dBC0XsYOp0 Dick Vital in the house. |
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