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Post by titantarheel on Nov 9, 2020 13:42:08 GMT -5
But haven't we been over this and realized that AD very well could be a 'walk on'? We don't need to burn a scholarship on him as the son of a university employee? (although I believe it than becomes a taxable benefit to Coach Davis so he is then out of pocket his tax rate x the taxable value of UDM tuition)
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Post by bigchuck on Nov 9, 2020 20:27:18 GMT -5
In AD's bio, it lists him as a walk-on I think that results from sloppy editing and proofreading. It's a holdover from his freshman year when he was a walk-on. I didn't read anything after seeing that AD is a Senior. Must have studied like mad during the lockdown. |
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Post by ptctitan on Nov 10, 2020 5:58:18 GMT -5
I didn't read anything after seeing that AD is a Senior. Must have studied like mad during the lockdown.  But he's a junior elsewhere in that very same document and on the website's roster page. This is all part of the branding initiative. |
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Post by Rogobob77 on Jan 28, 2021 11:13:56 GMT -5
In the Virtual Roundball this morning, Coach Davis indicated that notwithstanding the games played at Niagara, Waterman has freshman eligibility this year. He noted his high ceiling and said he doesn’t necessarily expect him to be around four years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 12:23:36 GMT -5
Commissioner, I was thinking about our scholarship situation for next season, using your chart for reference. FYI, I noticed that Koka was never added, which threw my numbers off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 8:31:27 GMT -5
So as of this morning, going by the info we have:
Still coming back or incoming (counting against the 13 scholarship limit):
AD
Waterman
LeGreair
Pink
Liedel
Isiani
Koka
Harvey
Curran
McAdoo
Ottrix??? (he never signed a LOI and I'm not sure what his status is)
Seniors who are still eligible to return for an extra year but have not announced their intentions (not counting against the 13 scholarship limit):
Fraser
Johnson
So it looks like we currently have 2 to 3 scholarships open (depending on Ottrix).
Is this info correct or am I making a wrong assumption somewhere?
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Post by ptctitan on Apr 26, 2021 8:44:40 GMT -5
hsscout1 - your assumptions are correct. I think that we will bring in 3 more players in addition to the 3 that have been disclosed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 8:53:18 GMT -5
hsscout1 - your assumptions are correct. I think that we will bring in 3 more players in addition to the 3 that have been disclosed. If we bring in 3 more, then either Ottrix is no longer coming, or someone from the top list is not returning (Pink?) |
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Post by ptctitan on Apr 26, 2021 9:04:31 GMT -5
hsscout1 - your assumptions are correct. I think that we will bring in 3 more players in addition to the 3 that have been disclosed. If we bring in 3 more, then either Ottrix is no longer coming, or someone from the top list is not returning (Pink?) I believe that as of now, your top list of returning players is accurate. |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Apr 26, 2021 11:12:18 GMT -5
So as of this morning, going by the info we have: Still coming back or incoming (counting against the 13 scholarship limit): AD Waterman LeGreair Pink Liedel Isiani Koka Harvey Curran McAdoo Ottrix??? (he never signed a LOI and I'm not sure what his status is) Seniors who are still eligible to return for an extra year but have not announced their intentions (not counting against the 13 scholarship limit): Fraser Johnson So it looks like we currently have 2 to 3 scholarships open (depending on Ottrix). Is this info correct or am I making a wrong assumption somewhere? If we lose Fraser or Johnson or both, then we are a lot weaker than last year. If Koul would have stayed then I think we would be better but now it's starting to look like the never ending rebuild. I am not so sure that Harvey can be an adequate replacement for Koul. We might end up with AD being the penetrator and I still think he is to slight for the job. I am hoping that Fraser and Johnson stay. |
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Post by Commissioner on Apr 26, 2021 11:29:02 GMT -5
So as of this morning, going by the info we have: Still coming back or incoming (counting against the 13 scholarship limit): AD Waterman LeGreair Pink Liedel Isiani Koka Harvey Curran McAdoo Ottrix??? (he never signed a LOI and I'm not sure what his status is) Seniors who are still eligible to return for an extra year but have not announced their intentions (not counting against the 13 scholarship limit): Fraser Johnson So it looks like we currently have 2 to 3 scholarships open (depending on Ottrix). Is this info correct or am I making a wrong assumption somewhere? If we lose Fraser or Johnson or both, then we are a lot weaker than last year. Again, I don't know how you can say that without knowing their replacements. If we replace them with Patrick Baldwin and Efton Reed, we'll be a whole lot better. Remember, a year ago you'd probably never heard of Marquel Fraser or Bul Kuol. Time to be patient and wait. I agree, I'd not like to lose Fraser or Johnson. My guess is that we lose Fraser but keep Johnson. But we just have to wait and see. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 11:53:03 GMT -5
If we lose Fraser or Johnson or both, then we are a lot weaker than last year. Again, I don't know how you can say that without knowing their replacements. If we replace them with Patrick Baldwin and Efton Reed, we'll be a whole lot better. Remember, a year ago you'd probably never heard of Marquel Fraser or Bul Kuol. Time to be patient and wait. I agree, I'd not like to lose Fraser or Johnson. My guess is that we lose Fraser but keep Johnson. But we just have to wait and see. I agree with Up - we are weaker than last year (so far) and the way Davis recruits (and with the current state of college basketball), every year seems like a rebuild. I thought Kuol was our best player. (And I'm pretty sure Fraser is leaving too, so we are going to feel some more pain). I also agree with Commish - we don't know who else is coming and we have been told to expect some P5 talent incoming (although I'd really prefer some quality high school talent so it doesn't always feel like a rebuild), so we need to be patient. It could be August before we know the entire roster - so maybe extremely patient is more like it |
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Post by titantarheel on Apr 26, 2021 13:19:33 GMT -5
Again, I don't know how you can say that without knowing their replacements. If we replace them with Patrick Baldwin and Efton Reed, we'll be a whole lot better. Remember, a year ago you'd probably never heard of Marquel Fraser or Bul Kuol. Time to be patient and wait. I agree, I'd not like to lose Fraser or Johnson. My guess is that we lose Fraser but keep Johnson. But we just have to wait and see. I agree with Up - we are weaker than last year (so far) and the way Davis recruits (and with the current state of college basketball), every year seems like a rebuild. I thought Kuol was our best player. (And I'm pretty sure Fraser is leaving too, so we are going to feel some more pain). I also agree with Commish - we don't know who else is coming and we have been told to expect some P5 talent incoming (although I'd really prefer some quality high school talent so it doesn't always feel like a rebuild), so we need to be patient. It could be August before we know the entire roster - so maybe extremely patient is more like it This is excellent perspective Scout...it will be a long haul until late August, and we all surely will want to grow impatient but alas I'll try to remember your post. |
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 26, 2021 14:03:30 GMT -5
I agree with Up - we are weaker than last year (so far) and the way Davis recruits (and with the current state of college basketball), every year seems like a rebuild. I thought Kuol was our best player. (And I'm pretty sure Fraser is leaving too, so we are going to feel some more pain). I also agree with Commish - we don't know who else is coming and we have been told to expect some P5 talent incoming (although I'd really prefer some quality high school talent so it doesn't always feel like a rebuild), so we need to be patient. It could be August before we know the entire roster - so maybe extremely patient is more like it This is excellent perspective Scout...it will be a long haul until late August, and we all surely will want to grow impatient but alas I'll try to remember your post. Also, if recent years are any indication, it could be well into the season before we get decisions from the NCAA on waiver requests. I am going to try not to stress about what our "final" roster will look like. 🙂 |
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But he's a junior elsewhere in that very same document and on the website's roster page. This is all part of the branding initiative. 
