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Post by titanmike on Apr 8, 2024 8:10:18 GMT -5
If you are saying you hope we don’t hire anyone close to Pat Donnelly and the person I mention is Colin Donnelly , I would say Colin is pretty close to Pat. Having a different opinion than you is not rude or crotchety. Saying that I hope Colin does not get an assistants job because his Dad is Pat is not rude or crotchety it’s honest! Donnelly was brought up on here when Ray wasn’t resigned the when BA was asked to leave and now as a replacement for Davis! I am not convinced Donnelly is even one of the better HS coaches in the area! He has had good players and teams but in the Catholic League you can cherry pick and recruit players. At a public school you pretty much Coach what you get and if you do not build a good feeder program in your area you are at the mercy of a roll of the dice in fact even then a private school can recruit your feeder program. In my opinion its rude and crotchety, however your opinion is flat out factually incorrect. Even if that that's the case with the Catholic League, why go after him, why single him out? Everyone is doing it then, right? You also would be wrong about public schools. For the most part the public schools coach what they get, but their are plenty of publics that are school of choice that get players also. |
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Post by titanmike on Apr 8, 2024 8:18:19 GMT -5
You don’t have to care for Coach Pat, that’s an opinion free to have. Your logic would suggest it’s not really based in solid fact and that’s where I’ll speak up. UDJ does NOT recruit. St Mary’s on the other hand… If they did recruit wouldn’t they have had more success across their sports over the years? When instead basketball is the sole program that is a consistent winner. Further, look at the long list of state titles schools like CC, de la salle, rice have won over past decade or so compared with UDJ. Factually UDJ isn’t at their levels so their supposed recruiting operation isn’t too slick. UDJ continually loses talented players to schools that DO recruit - there’s a laundry list of D1 (and even a few NFL guys) that went to UD for 7th and 8th and then was poached away. This has gone on for 20+ years. Have you seen UDJ hoops play much under Pat? Udballer, scout and myself have seen them live many times over the years. They ARE well coached and their success and various catholic league and regional titles are due to both talent AND the coaching. It’s impossible not to see how well coached they are on both ends of the court. So…opinions are all good, but not tending to facts or just misstating things to support a point is not all good. You are right I do not know for fact that whether UDJ gives $ breaks to student athletes it is an assumption. I am basing that on logic! Why would good players like Winston or Friday go to UDJ and pay if they can go to Rice, CC or Country Day for free? I have watched Donnelly’s teams in person around 15-16 times! But hey if UDJ can get parents like the Winston’s to send three sons to UDJ and pay around $135000 more than if they were to go to Rice or CC and pay full shot on a vehicle to get them there then the I take my hat off to UDJ, congratulations! Now you question the Winston family's choices and the decision to go to UDJ with the insinuations? Pathetic. |
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Post by titanmike on Apr 8, 2024 8:19:27 GMT -5
If Colin Donnelly would be a good hire, he should be hired on his own merits. mike - I do recall that we had UDJ's Herman Jenkins on our 1993-94 team. Can't remember if we actually recruited him or if he just showed up. But he may have committed here before UDJ called itself UDJ. In those days, we still played as Detroit and U of D. That was just a few years after the extinction meteor struck 6 and Livernois. Pre-history.  I think you are right PTC, pre Pat Donnelly |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Apr 8, 2024 9:27:46 GMT -5
You are right I do not know for fact that whether UDJ gives $ breaks to student athletes it is an assumption. I am basing that on logic! Why would good players like Winston or Friday go to UDJ and pay if they can go to Rice, CC or Country Day for free? I have watched Donnelly’s teams in person around 15-16 times! But hey if UDJ can get parents like the Winston’s to send three sons to UDJ and pay around $135000 more than if they were to go to Rice or CC and pay full shot on a vehicle to get them there then the I take my hat off to UDJ, congratulations! Now you question the Winston family's choices and the decision to go to UDJ with the insinuations? Pathetic. Pathetic?? If UDJ does not give advantageous tuition fees to students with exceptional athletic skills then congratulations finding families willing to pay a considerable amount of money to have their sons go there when as already has been posted on here, they could go elsewhere and get a similar education at one of the private schools in the area that does recruit! |
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Post by ptctitan on Apr 8, 2024 10:18:01 GMT -5
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Post by titanmike on Apr 8, 2024 10:54:35 GMT -5
Now you question the Winston family's choices and the decision to go to UDJ with the insinuations? Pathetic. Pathetic?? If UDJ does not give advantageous tuition fees to students with exceptional athletic skills then congratulations finding families willing to pay a considerable amount of money to have their sons go there when as already has been posted on here, they could go elsewhere and get a similar education at one of the private schools in the area that does recruit! I don't pretend as you do to know what they do. Rather than digressing further. If you want to continue to discuss it start a different thread. We owe it to Coach Montgomery not to continue to hijack this thread. |
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Post by joseph75 on Apr 8, 2024 11:29:39 GMT -5
C thanks for posting the WJR link. I stopped going to games a while ago. Listening to Coach on WJR has raised my level of hope for the MBB program
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Post by motorcitysam on Apr 8, 2024 11:58:07 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that. Solid interview, said all the right things. It is a different feel when you have a coach who is familiar with the area and the history of the program. It's not the end all be all of qualifications, but for a program that doesn't have a whole lot to offer, knowledge of tradition and what we used to be is important. |
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Post by upbasketballfan on Apr 8, 2024 13:25:53 GMT -5
Pathetic?? If UDJ does not give advantageous tuition fees to students with exceptional athletic skills then congratulations finding families willing to pay a considerable amount of money to have their sons go there when as already has been posted on here, they could go elsewhere and get a similar education at one of the private schools in the area that does recruit! I don't pretend as you do to know what they do. Rather than digressing further. If you want to continue to discuss it start a different thread. We owe it to Coach Montgomery not to continue to hijack this thread. Not interested it really doesn’t matter we probably already went too long on the topic! |
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Post by joseph75 on Apr 12, 2024 13:55:30 GMT -5
Signing period starts April 17 to May 15, 2024. Wishing Coach all success!!
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Post by Rogobob77 on Apr 25, 2024 15:30:47 GMT -5
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Post by udmperry on Apr 28, 2024 10:24:27 GMT -5
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Post by ptctitan on Apr 30, 2024 13:23:48 GMT -5
Coach is being interviewed on the radio this afternoon at 4:25 pm. Info is in Dan Hasty's post on X below.
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Post by Titan Jim on Apr 30, 2024 21:05:43 GMT -5
I listened to the Dan Hasty interview with Coach Monty today. Nothing really new. He did however mention that he has signed four players and that a formal announcement would probably be coming later this week.
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Post by ptctitan on May 1, 2024 12:23:34 GMT -5
The school posted a replay clip of the interview of you missed it live and want to hear it now.
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